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    Megan

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    1. The April 2024 issue of Soldier magazine has this:

       

      New Medal: Hit or Miss?

       

      A NEW medal that recognises deployments on operations such as Cabrit is in danger of being loved and loathed in equal measure by personnel, thanks to its qualifying criteria.


      The Wider Service Medal recognises 180 days’ of aggregated service on certain qualifying missions that do not necessarily fall within the traditional medallic criteria of risk and rigour. The MoD announced it will limit the number of applicable operations to begin with but it will be expanded later. However, eligibility will stretch back only to December 2018, when Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II approved the idea of the award. Op Cabrit began in 2017, leaving a substantial cohort of British soldiers who were deployed out in the cold.


      “I understand there has been a different focus on Eastern Europe since the Russian invasion of Ukraine but we faced the same threat and harsher conditions,” Maj Nicholas Hedges (Rifles), who served on the first Cabrit tour, told Soldier.


      “Clearly the medal is very welcome but in my view it should apply to the deployment from day one – it should be all or nothing.”


      WO2 Sam Coote (RLC), attached to 2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment, added: “I think it’s a positive step forward as we face many different challenges and this will recognise ops below the usual threshold.”


      Lt Col Nick Zorab, commanding officer of 1st Battalion, The Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment, also believes personnel will feel encouraged overall.


      “I served on an earlier Estonia deployment as a company commander and was struck then by how important medallic recognition was to troops,” he said. “We were deployed for nearly eight months and it’s right that sacrifices such as being  away for long periods are recognised.”


      Lt Col Zorab said the qualifying criteria might prove divisive if soldiers on the first tours were ruled out, but he added: “You have to draw a line somewhere.”

    2. I still remember almost 20 years ago, I was attending a reception at the University of Durham and the head of the hospitality staff was wearing a miniture of the MBE. I sidled over and congratulated him on it and he almost burst with pride and delight that someone had noticed!

       

      Having a long-lived monarch has been a bit of an issue... all these jubilee medals! That's given a lot of people a row of medals with no greater effort than staying in the job for a few years. Maybe the Victorians had the right idea - if you got the Jubilee Medal in 1887 and qualified for the next one in 1897 you got a bar to the 1887 one rather than a second medal.

    3. They are no more deserving than others who do not get such recognition - e.g., the letter carriers and refuse collectors who provide essential and often poorly-paid services to the public.

       

      In many nations there are more general 'long service' awards that people who have spent a long time in ANY job are eligible to apply for, they don't even have to be in public service. Maybe that is a better route to go down.

       

      And please moderate your tone. Your comment comes over as aggressive and dismissive of a thought you do not happen to agree with. This isn't antisocial media, it's a gentlemen's club :)

    4. Hi, Stogieman. The one on the black/orange/white ribbon is the Commemorative Medal for the 300th Anniversary of the Romanov Dynasty (Медаль в память 300 - летия дома Романовых), instituted 21 February 1913 and awarded to the nobility, members of the armed forces, and those who attended celebratory events at which the Tsar was present. Interestingly,  public servants, members of the Duma,  and priests could also wear it but had to purchase their own!

       

      The other one is the Commemorative Medal of 100th Anniversary of Patriotic War 1812 (МЕДАЛЬ "В ПАМЯТЬ 100-ЛЕТИЯ ОТЕЧЕСТВЕННОЙ ВОЙНЫ 1812 Г") which was awarded to troops taking part in parades to mark said anniversary (who were drawn from regiments that had been involved in turfing the French out) and also to direct descendants of soldiers who had fought in that war.

       

       

    5. Sometimes a minature of a lower class of an order is worn to indicate possession of a higher class of that order. Not sure if this was done in Sarawak, it's more of a European thing; and I'm not really into minatures anyway. The ribbon can be decorated with a rosette or other insignia to indicate this.

       

      Use of a rosette and 'wings' are also commonplace on a ribbon bar to indicate the class of the order held.

       

      A rosette and silver 'wings' as shown here conventionally represents a holder of the Commander or Third Class of a typical 5-class order.

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