nottingdale

On 7 April 2013 at 03:09:37, nottingdale said:

This is my first post so I am starting more or less from square one. Some time ago on the death of my grandmother I inherited my great grandfathers Indian GS Medal with a Burma clasp. After leaving the Army he joined the Met at Bethnal Green in 1888. He did move about a bit & I have seen several station photos & one way to identify him may be to identify his medal ribbons thus I am interested to know if he would have been entitled to any Police Medals in addition to his GS medal and if so what they would look like.

 

 

Joseph Davies

Height 5'-10'

 

B 7-5-1862 St Martin Shropshire.

 

 

Joined at Bethnal Green

R. 16/10/1888-1/10/1913

Met Police Rec

Warrant No 73235.

Left as PC. B-322 from Chelsea Div.

 

Then going to the next step !

I have some of his residential adressess locations (from rate books & the like) so did the Met have a rule about the distance from residence to station?

Any help would be most appreciated

Good day all.

I am back in the UK & still in pursuit of Joseph Davies (Posts 32-39) but more on that later.

1). One sun-in-law was Percy John Burnage. DOB 1891 @ Highgate.

He seems to have joined the Met 17/2/1919 and been in F Div & had a collar No 500. (He could even be in 21PG Post 38 ) Elect Roll has him at Harrow Rd. P Station in 1924, M 1926. I know he was not a well man (maybe WW1 gas?) but he was also attacked when he apprehended a burglar & 2 accomplices returned & he was badly beaten. Never the same again I was told. He died 1937 only 46 & my ant got a pension. Would he have any decorations service or valor?

Can any body fill in any other blanks blank’s?

2). His second sun-in-law, George William Bragg, DOB 20/3/1893 joined Blackpool, Lanc’s  Constabulary at some time after WW1. Service.

I have no idea if he was related to Frank Bragg Met F Div. or if he transferred from the Met?

3). Jo Davies, I am told joined the Court Service in Bury Lanc’s

but to date I can find nothing on him.

 

Last week I went to Q but could not find Jo, in MEPO, but I was told the pension records do not actually contain post service info so gave up. Is this so?  If not what post info do they contain.

 

Anybody know where I would find Court Staff &/or Police service info for Lanc’s?

I hope I’m not pushing the envelop to much

Martin

Thanks  Dave .

 

 

 

George was definitely in the Blackpool Force, he lived in the Police Station with his family. From what I have been told he was an inspector when he eventually retired back to Notting Dale in London.

 

On 7 April 2013 at 03:09:37, nottingdale said:

This is my first post so I am starting more or less from square one. Some time ago on the death of my grandmother I inherited my great grandfathers Indian GS Medal with a Burma clasp. After leaving the Army he joined the Met at Bethnal Green in 1888. He did move about a bit & I have seen several station photos & one way to identify him may be to identify his medal ribbons thus I am interested to know if he would have been entitled to any Police Medals in addition to his GS medal and if so what they would look like.

 

 

Joseph Davies

Height 5'-10'

 

B 7-5-1862 St Martin Shropshire.

 

 

Joined at Bethnal Green

R. 16/10/1888-1/10/1913

Met Police Rec

Warrant No 73235.

Left as PC. B-322 from Chelsea Div.

 

Then going to the next step !

I have some of his residential adressess locations (from rate books & the like) so did the Met have a rule about the distance from residence to station?

Any help would be most appreciated

 

Good day all.

 

I am back in the UK & still in pursuit of Joseph Davies (Posts 32-39) but more on that later.

 

1). One sun-in-law was Percy John Burnage. DOB 1891 @ Highgate.

 

He seems to have joined the Met 17/2/1919 and been in F Div & had a collar No 500. (He could even be in 21PG, Post 38. Pic. ) Elect Roll has him at Harrow Rd. P Station in 1924, M 1926. I know he was not a well man (maybe WW1 gas?) but he was also attacked when he apprehended a burglar & 2 accomplices returned & he was badly beaten. Never the same again, I was told. He died 1937 only 46 & my aunty got a pension. Would he have any decorations service or valour?

 

Can any body fill in any other blanks blank’s? (I have no Warrant No for him.)

 

2). His second sun-in-law, George William Bragg, DOB 20/3/1893 joined Blackpool, Lanc’s  Constabulary at some time after WW1. Service. He stayed on in WWII, never seen any police medals would he get something for WWII?

 

I have no idea if he was related to Frank Bragg Met F Div. or if he transferred from the Met?

 

3). Back to Jo Davies, I am told joined the Court Service in Bury Lanc’s

 

but to date I can find nothing on him.

 

 

Last week I went to Q but could not find Jo, in MEPO, but I was told the pension records do not actually contain post service info, so gave up. Is this so?  If not what post info do they contain.

 

 

Anybody know where I would find Court Staff &/or Police service info for Lanc’s?

 

I hope I’m not pushing the envelop to much

 

Martin

 

 

Thank you both very much for the info.

I find it mind blowing that I can trace a young 16 year old farm hand from a small village in Mid Wales across the world to India then over the mountains of Afghanistan (where our boys are now) back into India and then through Burma & up the Irrawaddy to take Upper Burma from a despot king. Then literally through the streets of London on an almost daily basis. Most of it over 100 years ago!

Just after I posted I stumbled on the Kemp reference you mentioned. I wonder what happened to his other decorations.

I am certain he is in one of the photos I was shown at the Met museum, but at that time I did not know much about him and I was just about to leave for Burma so that was the priority at the time.

His Met enrolment gave me his RA details to follow up. So with this new info I should be able to go back to London and find an identifiable pic of him, which I will post.

But one thing I am a little confused about is that according to official documents he joined the Met in October 88, but he was not discharged from the RA until Oct 90. The last item on his Army Form B206 states:-

“Enlisted for Section “D”on 20/10/90 for four years from 23/10 90."

Can you put any light on this apparent cross over.

It was always family belief that he was stationed at Notting Dale Station (a very rough slum area up until the 1960’s). but I have not seen this station mentioned on any posts. Would it have come under one of the other Divisions?

This is my first post so I am starting more or less from square one. Some time ago on the death of my grandmother I inherited my great grandfathers Indian GS Medal with a Burma clasp. After leaving the Army he joined the Met at Bethnal Green in 1888. He did move about a bit & I have seen several station photos & one way to identify him may be to identify his medal ribbons thus I am interested to know if he would have been entitled to any Police Medals in addition to his GS medal and if so what they would look like.

Joseph Davies

Height 5'-10'

B 7-5-1862 St Martin Shropshire.

Joined at Bethnal Green

R. 16/10/1888-1/10/1913

Met Police Rec

Warrant No 73235.

Left as PC. B-322 from Chelsea Div.

Then going to the next step !

I have some of his residential adressess locations (from rate books & the like) so did the Met have a rule about the distance from residence to station?

Any help would be most appreciated