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Yea, he is the artilleryman
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Is it possible for somebody to graduate in 1967 and be a 1stLt by around 1969 - early 1970's? If so, I may have pinpointed W.E. Cates as a Westpoint graduate.
Yip!!!! The day Butter Bars arrived "In-Country" in Nam, they aromatically became a 1st Lt.
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I have a Zippo as well - bought it while travelling in Vietnam almost 20 years ago (urgh, that sounds bad!)
Code at the bottom indicates it's a 1969 Zippo.
It appears to have belonged to a 1stLt W.E. Cates Jr
He appears to have been a member of the 1st Infantry Division... and the 16th Infantry Regiment.
Is there any way to find out more about him or possibly get this back to the family?
You can also check here:
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So, where's the photo? And the Zippo?
Ya heard that old saying, it's a small world??? You have no idea how many ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, husbands of wives and all those green eyed blond haired kids in their 30s and 40s around the world looking for me, so a photo is not possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, where's the photo? And the Zippo?
Man!!!! that was forty three years ago when I returned......hell, I've divorced so many times, I'm lucky to have anything left!!!!
I do have, somewhere, a Zippo that came out commemorating the 50th Anniversary of D-Day. I'd would trade that say for a MG unit marked bayonet.
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It appears to have belonged to a 1st Lt W.E. Cates Jr
No W.E Cates Jr listed on the Wall...so, he came home.
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I have a Zippo as well - bought it while travelling in Vietnam almost 20 years ago (urgh, that sounds bad!)
Code at the bottom indicates it's a 1969 Zippo.
It appears to have belonged to a 1stLt W.E. Cates Jr
He appears to have been a member of the 1st Infantry Division... and the 16th Infantry Regiment.
Is there any way to find out more about him or possibly get this back to the family?
Yes there is...go to www.military.com, sign up and go to the unit membership pages to that unit and ask all those members if anyone knows today or remembers that name. You might very well get a response. If you find out he was West Point, that makes it very easy, if OCS or ROTC, a bit harder.
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Those of us that left Nam walking, we left with two things, a Zippo lighter and a Seiko watch and those of us that were career soldiers, we wore a set of Sang Woo double knit khakis and when we got back stateside, we overdosed on cheese and chocolate.
My zippo had inscribed, "When I die bury me face down, so the whole world can kiss my a............................
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Nice!!!!! Can you see clear the cypher on the sword handle?
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I like these...researchable and nicely presented.
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Here is my bayo matching your Luger.
Eric
Hey Eric...ole pal!!!! Hope you don't mind but I copied photo #2 and have it sitting next to the matching Luger. It will pacify for a while.
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Ed. Thank you for the detailed information. I do appreciate it.
You're quite welcome, Coastie. Sharing information, experience and knowledge is what makes a place like here what it is. I don't hang around a place that doesn't. As I said, I'm no expert and there are many who know so much more than me but I'll share what I do know.
Also, some of what I say is an opinion and ya know what they say about opinions and everybody having one.................
Cheers
Ed
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Great P08 Lugers, Mr Wiliams!
Here is a machine gunner Militaerpass with a Luger entry.
Selbstladepistole (automatic pistol)
The man was awarded the Iron Cross and twice promoted for "bravery in the face of the enemy". I will write more on this MG gunner in another thread.
Please do....interesting info. My kind of Militarpass for sure.
Thanks
Ed
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Hi,
a buddy bought them to trade with me... so they are mine.... just need to see what i give him in return ;-)
Hey Buddy!! You need another buddy to pass them on to??? Buddy!!!! Mate!!!! Peezo!!!! Pard!!!!! Amigo!!!!
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These are pretty nice....
These yours Chris?????
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Ed,
It really was half a life time ago, Achim near Bremen turn off on the Autobahn, when you approach from the East , I only remember as I was 'Duty Taxi' for my mate who was shall we say seeing the widows daughter. That left me a bit of time to explore and it came up un polite conversation translated through the daughter.
Jock:)
Hey Jock, I ask because the name sounds familiar and when I got to the Gold Wound document, it then became even more familiar. I moved an old vet out of house apartment and moved him to Bingen back in 77/78 and when he was asked about the war, boy did he go off. Very angry dude, was in a panzer Regt and wounded seven times. He was pretty well torn up. His wife was the ex-wife of my landlord who left her for a younger thing, who eventually left him penniless. Move the guy to his newly built house high overlooking the Rhine above Bingen. He was a tyrant, I had lived above him for eight months prior.
Cheers...............
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This guy had a busy war!
I got these half a lifetime ago from his second wife (widow), she stated she loved him but he was near impossible to live with as he was rigid and still military like even to the end.
This was the 80s, his son was a junky and sold his medals thinking the paper was worthless just to get a 'fix'.
I have somewhere post war paperwork that states he got the DKG very late in the war and that there was no certificate.
Jock:)
Jock....did you acquire these from his widow that lived in or around Bingen?
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I visited that museum some years ago, I was really impressed. One of the top five museums I have visited. Went through the Resistance Museum also and the palace of course. Went to Corry Ten Boom's shop. Lot's of great History in Copenhagen. If I remember correctly, I didn't see any security back in the late 60s, early 70s. Loved the fact it was located in an old Cavalry barrack and how a full horse drawn artillery piece dominated the second floor.
I do hope the award is found. It will show up sooner or later somewhere.
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You see this a lot with pre-printed pre 1900 soldbuchs and wehrpasses
In between changing my Depends, I'm still in Kindergarten on some facts.
Thanks.........
Ed
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Thanks gentlemen..................... ;)
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Actually, it looks like the stationery ended with a printed "189" and someone wrote "90" over the "89". I guess whoever procured the stock didn't realize they might still be using it after 1899.
You feel the date then is 1901?
Ed
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has the '8' been changed to a '9'?
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Why a EKII on a ribbon bar or medal bar and also a EKII ribbon in the button hole? I've seen this in other photos too.
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Vietnam Zippo Unit ID Help.
in United States of America
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I have a good friend, West Point Class of 64, who is a member of the West Point Club. If ya need any further help, let me know.