Khyber
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This was all very enlightening, particularly the manufacturing technique. I am glad I posted this one.
Ron
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My thanks for the comments and observations. This will go in on my next research order. I have hopes that at least the citations on his WW2 awards will show up and shed some light on his naval service.
Ron
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Got it. The differences are clear. Many thanks. I knew there was a good reason why I stayed away from these orders when I was in my Russian Medal Feeding Frenzy.
Thanks
Ron
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Thanks for the comments. I have always assumed this was a copy (it came on a generals dress uniform I acquired). I was looking at a New York dealers web site today and there was a Suvorov 3rd with a close S/N that looked a lot like this one. Mine has been worn and polished and the enamel is gone. I do not like the look of the screw post but I can not see a lot of difference between it and pictures of later issued "certified" ones. I was interested in what other eyes could see.
Ron
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Reverse side. #10435
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Could I have your opinions on this item?
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The final medal document
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More medal documents
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More medal documents
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Medals documents
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Orders book for Combat Service (long service?) award
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Orders book2
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Orders book
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More medal images
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This group is next in line for research. The group is to Vasiliy Baranov and I understand that the issue authorities of the later medal documents indicates counter intelligence assignments. If this is true, I hope it does not preclude research.
Ron
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My thanks to all for the prompt guidance. Groups like you help put the fun back into collecting. As soon as my high speed internet connection get back up, I will start posting my researched groups and medals from about 5 years ago when I was in my Soviet medal frenzy.
Ron
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Here are my other candidates;
RB 89350
RB 354569
RS 714684
Valor 444954
Combat Service 1st type suspension 293832
My HSU 688 is already at the top of the list for a full lookup.
Thanks, Ron
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Another image of the order book.
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More images of the RB/PW2 pair.
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THis forum has re ignited my enthusiasm for researched Soviet orders and medals. I dug out my footlocker of Soviet stuff and have come up with some items I am considering for research. I would appreciate any opinions on which ones are good candidates and at what level (medal record card only or MRC and citation or .....). My first candidate is a RB and PW2 pair with the orders book. The orders book looks like it went through a war and has been recovered.
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[attachmentid=49920]Are the HSL's researchable? I had such great results with my HSU recently tht I thought I would give this one a try. I have just the medal and no paperwork unfortunately. The number is 11371 who I believe puts it in the 70's. Any comments of guidance would be appreciated.
Ron
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[attachmentid=49859]Here are the picture of Hero Star 688. My understanding is that it has had the suspension replaced (not uncommon on these early ones).
Ron
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Hi Ron. From an absolutely convoluted Bablefish translation
It were borne by 28.11.09 in the village Podkopayevo of Orel region in the family of worker. Russian. Term the AUCP(B) since 1939 finished seven year school. Worked as the crane driver of bridge crane at the plant "sickle and hammer" in Moscow. In RKKA - WORKERS' AND PEASANTS' RED ARMY since 1930. In 1932 it graduated from the 7th Stalingrad voyennouyu school of pilots. It participated in the World War II from June 1941 he was the squadron commander 249- GO of the destructive aviation of polka[y ] of 44-1 destructive air division VVS the 6th army of southwestern Front. The regiment was situated in the stage of formation, aircraft and crew did not have at the beginning of war. During July 1941. 249-1 iap obtained to the armament aircraft I -153 and I -16. To 25.9.41 g. it completed 83 combat reconnaissance missions and destruction of kinetic energy and combat materiel of enemy, after applying to it significant losses. 20.11.41 g. to captain loktionov to Andrey Fedorovich was appropriated the Title of Hero of the Soviet Union. During July 1942. 249-1 iap entered into the composition of 217-1 iad, and from April 1943 it entered into the composition of 229-1 iad. After war the Lieutenant Colonel Loktionov continued service in VVS. Since 1964. - in the reserve. It lived and worked in Kislovodske. 9.06.82 g. it died. Hero of the Soviet Union (20.11.41). It is rewarded with the Order of Lenin, with two Order of the Red Banners, with two Order of the Red Stars, with medals. [ y]Vposledstvii 163-1 guard destructive aviation Feodosiyskiy of Suvorov's order regiment.
Darrell, thank you so very much. This is a very exciting.
Ron
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Wow, this is great news and my thanks. I finally know who this medal was issued to. Now if I can just get the information translated. I will try to post the pictures today.
Ron
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Order of Suvorov
in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations
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Amazing. I looked more closely and my copy (truly it is a copy and a fake) is numbered 10439 thus the one on the web site was the master for the mold. No wonder it looked familiar.
Ron