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I believe the two older men are wearing the uniform of the NS-RKB (Nationalsozialistische Reichs-Kriegerbund) or the Marinebund, who had the same insignia, but the navy subsection's insignia was gilt metal with an anchor, which is unclear here. They wore a dark blue suit. It was a veteran's organization. There were ranks within the Bund that were signified by the wearing of an armband on the lower left sleeve.
The young sailor in the middle has a cap band that reads "Marineartillerieabteilung" (Naval Artillery Detachment). There was normally a unit number before and after this name, but they cannot be seen in the photo. He is wearing the parade jacket (dress jacket).
"MaschOgfr" would have been his rank, Maschinen Obergefreiter (Mechanic NCO), two grades above a basic seaman (Matrose).
Chip
Thank you Chip! I will start looking into the NS-RKB and Marinebund avenue sand see what I can come up with.
Do you know what the medal on the gentleman to the right is wearing? I tried looking it up - but am not sure I came up with the right one - possibly the Iron Cross??
The men in the photo are my grandfather, great grandfather, and gg grandfather - so I am truly interested in anything that this picture could tell about their military career/life.
Jennetta
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His cap without a bill indicates enlisted rank.
Thank you Paul C!!
The photograph was almost certainly taken before March 1897 which is when a Kaiserheer order instructed the wearing of the national cockade above the State cockade on peaked hats and field caps, the national cockade to be placed on the right side of the pickelhaube and the State version on the left side. I can't find the exact reference for that date right now, but will look for it if it is needed. Nor can I help with the uniform just yet as I am away from home!
Ooops - didn't see your correction (the pic was taken between 1873 and 1875.....) until after I posted the above - so you knew the date...
As for the uniform, I would make a guess that this chap has a dark blue uniform with a yellow or red front - both of these colours appear dark grey or even black because of the type of film that was used. He also seems to have silver buttons, in which case I think it could be anyone of Ulan regiments Nrs.5, 6, 7, 8 or 14 (red) or 15 (yellow). No doubt somebody will correct me if I am way off the ID!
Thank you Trajan. I found a website with info on the uniform - http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/ulan.htm , which shows what the uniform may have looked like.
Where did you find the info on the various regiments, and their colours? Also, do you have any idea what the chain type thing is that is located above his right hand (holding the cigar)??
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I am hoping someone can identify what the uniform means as far as rank, position, etc... All I know is that the gentleman was a member of the Ulan (Ulanen??) in Germany, the picture was taken between 1873 and 1975, and the gentleman was approximately 20 years old when the photo was taken. Any help would be greatly appreciated - as it is an ancestor.
BTW - what's with the cigar?!??!?!?!?
Oops - the pic was taken between 1873 and 1875.....
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Hello all. Can anyone help identifying the uniforms/ranks/positions of the gentlemen in the picture? The picture would have been taken shortly before the start of WWII.
I know the youngest man was aboard U-55 in January 1940 when it went down. He was rescued by (I believe) the British, and was then a prisoner of war in Canada for the remainder of WWII. I have been told that he was a MaschOGfr (not sure exactly what that means.....).
The man on the left went down with the Wilhelm Gustloff in January 1945, as did another son who was also in the Kriegsmarine.
Other than that - I have no idea what their uniforms mean, what ranks they were, or positions they may have held. I am hoping that with the expertise out here - that an answer can be found! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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