Jacques

How about even the fact the owner could have been a spanish volunteer or of foreign descent from way back..? Nationalist pride etc.

Just plain wrong order works as well of course In many ways it seems that the regulations were so confusing at different times!

Regards

Matt Gibbs

the regulations were not confusing, but not always strictly applied !

Here is a compilation of the variety of ribbons bars mounting, in or out regulations

The first one Sal shows is fake as Rick says, this second one, Jacques can you lift up the material on the base catch to confirm my thoughts please.

(in my opinion it's fake, a built up base, there are some good Luft ones of these about too, they have the oblate rounded head on the catch, more commonly you find the one like Sal shows, pointed or the 'apex' head. Bring it along to Stuttgart Jacques I'd like to ponder over this example in hand if I may)

I didn't have it anymore. here is another pic.

jacques

Are you a skull addict ?

I like pics showing KR 5 & IR 17 skulls

the lid cardboard is thick and flat instead of slightly convex and thin

the interior shows a bad light color for the glue remains. the protection is too red.

Detail of the push-button which is quite new. the purple bottom lid is too flat

Detail of the LDO

the hinge isn't magnetic

Here is a green case which I think is a copy. I need your opinion.

the case is a little bit larger than the original (2-3mm)

the dark green color is convincing

They travelled TO Spain as secret civilian "tourists" but came home as "public" military units?

Tch tch! So much for "security!"

Right ! but the other returns, during the civil war period, were more quiet and less mediatized.

Here is the inside of the programm sheet. Note the name "Sierra Cordoba" on which boat travelled the members of the PzGruppe Drohne, the instructors of the military academies, the signal Coy, and the Imker Gruppe Staff from 26 to 31May. Which is interesting on this one is the date. It is dated 1 June 39. I guess this one was an extra.

here are the same kind of cards for each day of the travel, edited for the ship Sierra Cordoba, on which traveled the members of the Panzergruppe Drohne.

Inside program and menu

The members of the LC returned home on bord of several ships: Sierra Cordoba, Wilhem Gustloff, It seems that programm were edited for each ship including daily time table and menu.

This one is for the F/88 which travelled on the W. Gustloff.

Thanks.

I'll post other makers soon.

another Administrative

the reverse;left to right

900, 900+ coat, 900 + coat

900, 900

L/13, L/13

Here are the Meybauer crosses. Bronze class is still lacking

Perhaps he was wounded in Spain and therefore transferred to administrative duties... note black wound badge.

Best regards

We should see the "sufrimientos por la Patria" medal ribbon bar .

Beautiful examples, Jacques .

Which, of all your SC, is your most favourite (and why)?

Rich

Thanks .

I like the Meybauer crosses. The best manufactured and best looking IMO. I like their coat of arms mark.

jacques

Administrative but with swords ! Did he throw ink to the eyes of the enemy in Spain?

Was it such easy ????

No, he was certainly appointed to a LW combat unit as administrative and thus got the swords class. Or he was not yet administrative at the time of his turn in Spain.

jacques

just a few ones

This one is interesting because of the collar badge. this is an administrative NCO and he got the silver cross in Spain

in post #2, what is the award on the

gentleman's left breast pocket?

joe

I don't know what the badge is. May be a pre-war party commeration badge.

jacques