Jacques

it's to note that this cross is smaller than the normal one. between big sisters for comparison .

Lateral view

detail of the eagle

reverse

Same cross as "post 11" but now mine . I finally get the last piece to the full set ( affordable set ...)

the cross is in bronzed tombac. it is very well detailed . the eagles are sharp detailed thus the cut out clutched swasticas. The ring is soldered at its extremities. the loop is a little bit oblong.

Size:

MM:unmarked

cross:bronze

hight with loop:42,2mm

width:41mm

disk;13,4mm

ring:11,3mm

weight:12g

Cut out variant

Black wound badge

Note that the original without sword die.

Catch system typical, similar to EK1. Square section hook form.

Reverse. The swastica branches of the eagles shows 2 cut out.

The firm Steinhauer & Luck manufactured the spanish crosses all alo,g the war. several variants do exist of this maker. Here is one.

The cross is in tombac then silver wash applied. the cross in stamped "4" on the pin.

To be noted that Steinhauer used an original die for it crosses without swords (not cut swords).

MM cross hight width disk weight

4 silver 56,5mm 56,2mm 16,6mm 30,39g

Fine cased Deumer cross. Same manufacture exists with the MM within a square.

Gold one

reverse

Personnally, I prefer the so-called ''verbödet" model

I don't trust this theory of LC wounded badge or prototype. I think that the badge was instituted on the base of the WW1 design, and in some cases manufactured with ww1 badges. Of course, the first guys entitled to be awarded this badge were the LC members wounded in Spain. the badge was mass manufactured because period pics showing it worn are common. the first wounded during the war (Poland, Francere, etc..)received it before the manufacture of the 1940 model. Moreover this badge was delivered later , all along the war ( stocks remaining). I suppose that the Chancellery asked for new designs at the beginning of the war to reward the soldiers with new badges. just my two cents.

reverse

Here is mine.

Some cases

It should be a very sad thing to wear a medal that says "my son was killed".

Best regards

May be it is the reason why there is no pic showing it worn.

In another hand, I suppose that some were proud that their son died for the country...

jacques

Beautiful cased honor badges. Nothing to say but original !

jacques

I have had some very experienced collector friends who tell me this cap pin is authentic and I have other experienced collector friends who tell me it isn't. I'd be interested in knowing one way or the other. So if any of you have any facts that prove the point pro or con, I'd be delighted.

Your badge look good to me. he back side coresponds to what I know, color and pin. some similar badge were manufactured after the war for the veterans but with holes on each side to sewn them (see pic).

jacques

here is the gold class. I don't remember the number of points, but I got it in 1998. I'm just waiting for the "ordre national du m?rite" now.

Not only is it attributed, it looks like you've got the same bar that he was wearing in the photograph. Doesn't get much better than that. The fact that you've got the bar of a RK-winner, general, and fighter ace is just icing on the cake.

--Chris

It is the same and came with some other items (BW ribbons bar, pilot badge, spanish cross in gold, DK)

jacques

I like this latest one !

Jaques,

Is that a lifesaving medal ribbon on the long bar next to the EK2?

Yes, it is the life saving medal ribbon bar. this bar was attributed to Hannes TRAUTLOFT