Jacques

Here is the badge worn

Hello

could you confirm this is a 36-39 period badge.

This badge was worn by members of the LC attached to the staff.

jacques

Thank you Jacques, i have sent the pictures.

Hi,

I received the pictures, checked them and compared to my juncker crosses. I don't see anything which seems wrong. the cross has certainly been polished (it is the only explaination that comes to my mind), but it retains particular details on the pebbling of both centre circle and cross that let me think it is an original one.

jacques

MasterBo,

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jacques

Hi MasterBo,

Do you have other papers from this officer ?

jacques

I didn't find yet this name ut it looks good. nice LW officer document. Just remember that only 1126 were awarded.

hi,

I confirm that the cross is absolutly original. it seems that some remains of gilding can be seen on the swords grips. It could be a gold cross, but hard to say.

jacques

here are for comparison 2 crosses with remaining of gilding

Hi

It looks good, but difficult to tell if it is gold or silver highly polished.

Nevertheless is it possible to have a close up of the 2 swords grips ?

jacques

I don't know which cross it is, may be our spanish friends will help us. At least, not related to the Legion condor.

jacques

Hello Scott,

it is the first time I see such card. nice find.

jacques

I agree Scott .

Any pics of the obverse ?

jacques

Hello,

the cross looks to be an original Juncker to me. I observed the same mark/flaw under the hinge on CEJ 900 crosses.

regards

jacques

Hi,

I saw this badge on a dealer site. Certainly a unit pin for spanish airforce stationed in Spanish Sahara in the 50's.

Hello,

In my opinion it is a fake.

- I never saw reputed original signed "Meissner". Only the facsimile of A.H.

- the ink colour of the signature isn't good

- no RUNK among the listed dead in Spain

- the text for the owner isn't right.

- the date isn't good (17 januar 1940)

such documents are very scarce, more than the cross itself.

jacques

Hi Paddy,

He certainly was awarded the spanish cross in gold.

The book don't details each action. it just give the names.

No, sorry, I just downloaded the picture when this bar was offered, and I found the information in a book. NOthing more is written about this men to my knowledge. If he was awarded this medal, he certainly participated to a special action as observer.

jacques

few ribbons bars from my collection

I guess the owner was attached to the AS88: Arno Kleyenstuber from AS88.

he was in Spain from spring 1937 to jannuary 1938, observer on HE59-HE60, based in Malaga and later in Pollensa (Majorca)

here are 3 german manufactures

Hi Scott,

SAZ is indeed a spanish manufacturer from this period. I don't know how it has been marked or not , and how to recognize them; I never see one in flesh.

As I said, German manufacturers also made this medal, and I would like to see these variants too.

Best regards

jacques

German manufacturers made this medal (at least S&L, Schickle,Deumer). Dos anyone has such medal in his collection ?

Hi Scott,

very nice medal. I don't knw the differences between the spanish makers, but our spanish friends will certainly enlighten us quickly. It looks period to me.

jacques

Here is a new one. It is the third I got from the same man. the picture is a bit blurry. Note he wears the spanish cross on the left side of his panzer wrap.

Fake. Stay away

the case is also a fake.

Many thinks don't match to an original:

eagle's design, pebbling, maker's mark, pin, catch, gilding, swords grip design,

jacques