Jacques

Yes, Jacques where that was gone? We wait for it...

Certainly a drunk worker ! too much schnapps the day he soldered the pin ...

jacques

Indeed Joe, it has been less awarded than the RK, but fortunatly it doesn't interest to much the collectors.

I sold the third one few years ago. It was cased.

It is one of my favorite too..it retains a nice design with a very coloured ribbon.

Happy New year

jacques

exceptional!

what? a hundred times rarer than the Knight's Cross,

and moreso because of KC duplicates.

this has always been one of my favorite TR medals.

you are fortunate to have three...

but then you ARE jacques, king of the Condors!!

joe

Scott, here are the two crosses.

On left, attributed to Schäfer family.

Hi,

could you post pictures of obverse and reverse of that badge ?

jacques

Hi Charlie,

welcome to the forum. In order to illustrate our/my opinion, I used pictures I have in my data base, And I confess that sometimes I don't know who is/was the original owner, and thus can't ask him the permission. So sorry if Harrier used your cross, I should had done the same, and I already did the same. The aim is to illustrate/discuss/ with collectors and sometimes give an help. I just give my opinion, it is not THE absolute truth , but just an opinion; it has to be confirmed by others, by books, by experts, and overall our own opinion and feeling. I never try to convince anyone, but just give my feeling.

Concerning the drop tail eagles, in which my opinion (still open ) differs from Harrier's one, is that I find them ugly; it is my own opinion and feeling as I wrote. compared to other well detailed and designed eagles from S&L, yes I find them crude. I also find the Zimmermann pigeon looking eagles head ugly.

Best regards

jacques

Wow - nice find Jacques. Is this your first NOK cross?

No Scott, it is the third I got. another one is still in my collection; part of a grouping.

jacques

reverse of this very rare cross. It has been awarded only 315 times.

Note as fine the cross and eagles are detailed. the swasticas are sharply cut out.

the bronze colour is typical of this manufacture.

This is a new Honor cross for Next of Kin.

Mounting not original to the cross but just for display.

jacques

Hello,

nice ribbons bar. I don't have information about this priest, but concerning the ribbons, I guess it is normal to find the foreign decorations at the end.

jacques

Hello,back from Kabul, I share this photo from an album I got during this past few month.

hI,

I don't think I will ask any authorization. as you said , bureaucratie is too slow...It will join the other on my medals bar

Hi,

the cross itself retains all details of an original L/21. The gilding looks good, at least on the pictures.

jacques

reverse

obverse

Hi,

document. anyone can translate it?

Hi guys,

thanks for the answer. It is not the same medal, but it looks very close.the design changed but is familiar, and the ribbon's colours are the same except the Bulgarian colours which are now on the right.

In fact, I'm currently in Afghanistan and I just have been awarded with this medal. all is written in syrilic and I can't read it. I'll take pics and them here, with the document.

jacques

hi,

I got a Bulgarian medal, a current one. it is silvered with a peace bird on the obverse. the ribbon is sky blue, with the colors of Bulgaria on the right side. it is for "participation to mission" or something equivalent.

is anyone can help me.

jacques

Thank you Dolfek. Yes, a Medalla Militar from the Civil War period is something I'm looking for...

you must find now the variant for officers

jacques

Cheers from Kaboul

few samples

here is mine

Very nice crosses Tim :beer:

Thank you Jacques - the photo of the Heer officer above is wearing the award on his pocket - I could not remember the name. Interesting photo with the Cruz Rojo also!

the name is Eberhardt von Ostmann

Certainly one of our spanish comrades will able to give you an help.

jacques

Just a little update. I just attended the SOS in Louisville, Kentucky (supposedly now the largest show in the world) and made a special point to look at Spanish Crosses. There were quite a few there, with (surprisingly) almost as many good ones as bad ones. There were some exceedingly fine pieces, including at least 4 Gold class ones in very good shape. Only saw (I think) 2 cases (Silver). Prices were not as bad as I feared, but still pretty high. There was a very nice, uncased Next-of-Kin cross being offered for $4500.

There were several "drop-tail" crosses there, but all were fake, with poor eagle detailing, incorrect hinges, pins and catches, and lightweight construction. On most, the eagles were not even soldered to the cross arms, only the swords. Only 2 were being offered as originals, both by dealers whose other inventory was absolute junk. I did not see a single piece which compared favorably in any way to the ones I posted here. This, of course, does not mean that there are real ones, only that IF there are, they are very scarce indeed.

Saw a very few documents, with most being for the Bronze class (although I did see one Silver with swords). Prices were @ $350-750.

So...if you're looking for Spanish Crosses, you can still find them if you're willing to pay for them!

Did you take pictures ?

jacques

Jacques, My apologies for using your photo - I have removed it.

A Cruz Blanco ("1st Class") and a Gold Spanish Cross... very interesting. Do you have any evidence of the Cruz Rojo being awarded with a Gold Spanish Cross? Or any period photos of the white-armed version of the Cruz de Guerra being worn by a German veteran?

Hi Scott,

It is not a problem, you can let the picture.

No evidence at the moment for Gold cross + cruz roja

what do you mean by "white-armed version of the Cruz de Guerra" ?

jacques