Fred Green

Hello,

      I battalion 4th Field Artillery regiment. Sorry I didn't see your additional answer that you already knew that it was for the 4th FA.

Fred

Hello Andreas,

     Nice pair of swimming trunks. These were worn by a soldier in the IBattalion 4th Field Artillery regiment . The sword insignia is the smaller Reichswehr sport insignia for the swimming trunks.

Fred Green

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Hello,

      It appears to be a very nice original patch to me.

Fred

Hello,

    Trade badges were supposed to be worn on the lower left sleeve. Signal Qualification badges,signal blitzes, were worn on the right sleeve centered between the elbow and shoulder unless there was a rank patch worn. It was then worn above the rank patch. The drivers qualification badge was worn on the lower left sleeve. Brian Davis has a great section referring to Heer trade badges in his book GERMAN ARMY UNIFORMS AND INSIGNIA 1933-1945   John Angolia and Adolf Schlicht take it in depth in their book UNIFORMS AND TRADITIONS OF THE GERMAN ARMY 1933-1945.

     Here are some examples that I have.

Fred

Hello,

     The boards are unpiped with the waffenfarbe shown in the embroidery. No piping and made out of uniform material. They are definitely skinnier than WWI board but definitely have some of the characteristics though. They didn't last very long, 2-3 years and then they went to a dark green, badge cloth.

Fred

Hello,

      Quite a while Paul.The hardest parts were the correct collar tabs backed on reseda green and the obergefreiter and Hauptgefreiter chevrons.  I have upgrade the hauptgefreiter chevron with a issue piece with embroidered pip.

Fred 

Hello,

    We all know the iconic M36 tunic as we call it with 4 patch pockets and a dark green collar; but did you know when it first came out it had a collar made of uniform cloth. It was the same color as the uniform. The shoulder boards were also made of the same material. The collar tabs were backed on a dark field grey (reseda green) material. While the collar and the boards were a uniform cloth the sleeve chevrons, signal blitzes, and specialty patches were made of the dark field grey. Here is an example of the first pattern of Heer uniform insignia for the new style tunic.

Fred

Hello,

    The picture looks great. I have a private purchase dress tunic like this for a senior NCO from Ulm. It was worn up until at least 1936.

Fred

Hello,

      I have always collected Heer cloth insignia. In the past few years I have narrowed and widened my collecting scope and now actively search for Reichsheer insignia from IR13 out of Ulm Germany. Here are two parts of my small RH cloth insignia collection. The first is a riker case of insignia manufactured on moleskin for the summer tunic. The second case is standard Wool insignia.

Fred

Hello,

     Great looking collection of cloth insignia.

Fred

Hello,

    44 is the boot size.

Fred

Chris,

     I learned it today too after finding it in the book.

Fred

Hello Chris,

    The book"THE GERMAN REICHSWEHR"  by Schlicht and Kraus states "The numerals (1-1000,000) were allocated to units by army district commands". I am guessing that army district command were Wehrkreis'. Does anybody know of a copy of this list or a reference to it? Thanks again.

Fred

Hello,

     I have this Reichsheer tab and was looking for some information about it. Can anybody tell me if there were certain numerical lots for certain Wehrkreis' ?  Can you tell where this RH Tag was issued from? Thank you.

Fred

Hello,

Very Nice pictures!!! I look for the same thing, nice clear shots of uniform and insignia. Sweet!!

Fred

Greetings All,

The type of embroidery work that you are talking about is BeVo weave. This insignia is not done in BeVo and if it was it would be fake! There are some very nice discussian on this insignia on another forum. The two examples posted I believe to be fake. Just my opinion.

Fred Green

Hey DonC,

That is a fantastic looking uniform. The waffenrock had to be the the smartest uniform a German Heer E.M. could have! I love the orange also. That is sweet. Can you post any detail shots of the Eagle,tabs,boards and cuffs? With a waffenrock the detail of the insignia in these areas is great!! Thanks for showing this. Cannot wait to see more.

Fred Green

Greetings,

Hopefully this will give you something to compare your insignia to. If I can be of any help in the Heer insignia field please contact me. Thank you.

Fred Green

Last but not least is an "Afrikakorps" cufftitle. A minimum of two monthes service in Africa was required before this cufftitle was awarded to an individual. There were exceptions dealing with wounds and sickness that changed the time limits.

This cufftitle is folded over on itself so you cannot see the entire length. It was removed from a tunic and had had the edges folded under.

Here are three pieces of rank insignia for an Oberschutze. This is something like an E2 pay grade in our present army. I have two different variations of the cotton insignia and one on wool for the greatcoat.

Here are two pair of DAK collar tabs. They are in mint state and have not been cut and folded for emplacement on a tunic. Notice that there is no branch color like the continental style!

The DAK did not use a trapazoid on the front of their caps like the standard Heer M43 field cap. They used two piece insignia. Here are the roundles that go with the cap eagles. One is cut and folded(removed) and the other is in mint state. The one in mint state is most likely a Kriegmarine version.You can tell by the background color.

Here are a pair of cap eagles that have been cut and folded and removed from hats.

A pair of cap eagles in mint state.

Greetings All,

I noticed that there were some questions about Pat's DAK Eagle. I am glad that I could respond. Here are some more examples out of my collection of DAK Insignia.

First is a cut and folded Breast eagle removed from a tunic. It is a standard BeVo weave type eagle done in DAK colors.