notned

and A KSA to;

Cpl Charles Presdee 2nd Kings Shropshire Light Infantry

Missing the bars...and has been re-suspendered..

Need an original ribbon...anyone?

Also this nice RNR medal to a N Kiely

Anyone got a spare bit of ribbon for this one please??

Still more to come!

Hello Gents,

Well i ahve fallen in love with Victorian and Edwardian medals...and the research that comes with each peice...

So far i have been reasonabley lucky....

Here is one beauty;

A QSA to a Casualty of the Scottish Horse

Severely wounded at Brakenlaagte 30/10/1901 whilst serving with the 2nd Scotttish Horse

Shg.STH ( shoeing Smith) W.Bain

And another QSA with no clasps to a chap who was in WW1 and was killed/Died in Mesopotamia 14/7/15

aged 39 years leaving behind a Wife and kids. a Joseph. William.Francis. Warren

Was entitled to the following bars to the QSA

TALANA

DEFENSE OF LADYSMITH

OFS

LAINGS NEK

BELFAST

Also was entitled to the 1915 Star, BWM and Victory medals also the KSA

Would love to re-unite his medals...However being a realist..it may never happen so am happy with the one link to his past..

Enjoy!

Cheers

Paul

PS: More to follow!

Thanks Darrell!

More developments,

I met a chap the other day, A David Gunby, who wrote the history of 40 SQN RAF.

He is currently working on another History which covers the Air group that encompassed 104SQN.

He promised to look up Mr Clark and see what he could find out about his service and about 104SQN service in the middle east.

So stay tuned! the wheels of research are grinding away!

Regards

Paul

Thankyou Rick and Mike!

Well i had to 'Dig' up the other bits...as the seller originally was selling just the medalbar and the ribbon bar only...i did some 'research' and found the sellers phone number, and gave them a call.

I came straight out and asked them if there was any other items belonging to the man....

and they said yes they had the photos and some paperwork and some badges, they did not elaborate, i suspect they did not really know how to describe these items, i saked if these items would come with the medals and expalined to them the virtues of keeping the 'group' together.

They said yes, so i said, YES i will buy this set.

Turns out the Gent concerned's wife was a friend of the sellers mother and when he died the medals were given to the seller...i have no idea why...

I have asked them to find out some more about him...so will have to wait and see...

I also have set the wheels in motion to find out about his wartime service...and have got my Grandad onto it.

He is the Secretary of the NZ Brevet Club here in CHCH and has access and contacts to all the Aircrew associations in the UK and himself was a former Wartime Air gunner too! ( 547 SQN RAF)

So will certainly fill you in with any new developments!

Glad you enjoyed it! makes these medals so much more Interesting when you have some paperwork, and paperwork like this is a bonus, as he was definately involved in many facets of war!

And had his fair share of mishaps!

I am very pleased with this group!

You may wonder why i am delving into this world of collecting...( a bit different from Imperial German) but i had to have it...It was a group...and had a story to tell...and a story that could be Researched!

Much more fun!

Cheers Gents,

Paul

Federation of Malyasia Police

Thanks Mike!

Makes perfect sense!

So whadda you think?

Cheers

Paul

and as a result of being shot down over the Western Desert, he got this!

Dated July 1942

Sounds like quite a Character!

Am in the process of finding out more about his wartime service

and getting to the bottom of the missing medals and the missing bar!

Enjoy!

comments encouraged!

Regards

Paul

and this wee Newspaper clipping from 1949!

Aparently Mr Clark was in NINE air crashes!

Hows that for a survivor!

And nearly taken out by a V2 later in the war!

and now for an Interesting bit about his Service in Malaya...

apparently he was not a desk Jockey..and spent his time combing the jungle for rebels and other lawless buggers!

Personnally signed by the Malayan Inspector General!

Mohd Hamidi B.MD Yusof

and the inside ot eh Police ID card..

See him wearing the medal ribbon bar? before the GSM of course...

but the Atlantic is there! and the rosette on the africa star too!

Here is his Police ID card...

Here is his Air Gunners Brevet wing

and his ribbon bar, now this is mounted on a proper bar with pins to both levels

And a pic of him in his flight gear during the war...

Hello Gents,

I have purchased this nice wee group to an ex Air Gunner from 104 SQN RAF

He served in the Malayan Police as a Police Leutenant no 677

Here are his medals mounted on a medalbar...very nice! excellent condition!

1939-45 Star

Atlantic Star, Missing??? according to his ribbon bar!

Africa Star...Missing a Clasp...according to his ribbon bar!

Defense Medal

War Medal

GSM with Malaya bar Stamped on the rim..677 P/LT T.A.CLARK F.OF.M.POL i think it means Police Leutenant T.A.CLARK F? officer Malayan Police

Whats the 'F' for???

More pics to follow!

Hi Solomon,

Fantastic score! Love the case! and to get it with the document is a bonus!

The photo! WOW! i never seen so many pin back to a Non com before!

WoW! he must have been a Super soldier!

Thanks for showing!

Cheers

Paul

JB,

I do believe that you are right!... it must be! ...thats the only logical explanation!

Well now to find a Ladies mount...

Cheers

Paul

Hi Darrell,

thats the same case i am familiar with too!

I have an OBE case just like it!

But this MBE one????? its certainly a head scratcher!

Cheers

Paul

Hello Gents,

This has surfaced down under...

An MBE case...

Now i am confused...

I thought that the MBE was a medal...not a breast badge...as apparently this case looks like it held a Breast badge...

I cannot find ANY pics of an MBE breast badge....anywhere...?

Can anyone shed some light on this??

Ed ?

Thanks Gents!

Regards

Paul

Thanks Robin!.

One has to wonder why the fakers would go through so much trouble to make such a well detailed badge, then get the pins wrong...I mean.. that on the manufacturing side...the pins would be the easy part of the whole construction of the badge...

Another theory is that perhaps the manufacturers ( wartime) got some feedback from the Kreigsmarine that these badges rusted with sea air ( hence this one being brass)and snagged and came off easily due to the simple pin arrangement, so they made a special variation to combat these problems???

Or perhaps these variations are Manufacturers prototypes, and would have been on a display board, hence these ones being flat and with the different pin arrangement?? Hmm, food for thought...

Anyway i will go with the conclusions drawn by members more knowledgeable and experienced than I

Anither reason why i don't collect TR!

Many thanks for your input Robin!

Cheers

Paul

Thankyou Gentlemen!

Stogie, thanks for the huge variety...this is what we want to see!

Dan! I love that badge and its packet! Super!

Keep them coming Gents! its a good reference thread...

Kind regards

Paul

and the reverse of the 1899 Mannover medallion.

the reverse of the Baden 1849 medal

Please Please help with a ribbon! Grovel grovel...

and this wee medallion...with Ennerung endas Mannover 1899

will post pics of the reverses of this and the Baden one...

Comments please...

Cheers

Paul

And this Baden medal from 1849 came as well...

Now i know the ribon is wrong for this medal...does anyone have any for me?? Please....

Hello Gents,

this wee gem came in a lot i picked up recently...

Does anyone know anything about these?

the enamel is damaged a bit on the top and the other arms have lots of scratches...the ring attachment is slotted into the top of the cross in a recess then soldered.....the reverse is blank with breathing holes for the enamelling?

Comment appreciated!

Thanks Gents

Paul

Nice Group Joe!

Daniel, that would mean that when he WAS at the front...he did a hell of alot! earning three bravery awards before getting his wound...

Must be a great story behind this guy...

Cheers

Paul

Biro,

I studied my Wilm under a Loupe..and the smaller ring has a clearly marked '2'...and the core is different again...the crown has the tops curving towards the middle at the ame level as the sides of the crown..not like some of theothers which raise up slightly...

Sorry cannot post pics as i do not have a camera that can do this sort of close up...

Now i am gonna study all my EK's under the loupe now...

Back! with my discoveries!!

Heres what i found from the EK's i could get at...the others are too tightly sewn to the bars!

One Marked 'MK' has and 'x' on the eyelet

one marked 'Z' has an 'O' on the eyelet..

Found another WILM..same as my other cross with same core details except that its got more paint on it..but no mark on the eyelet..

And found a 'we' marked eyelet on a cross too!

There you go...more ammunition of the databases!

Cheers

Paul