NavalMark

Hello Alex,

please compare the crowns. The pics could be better, but i think you can see the differences. The outer shape is different, the cross on top left is llarger and cut-out. The pearls in the bottom row left have all the same size, right they get smaller from center to the sides, so it looks more 3-dimensional. The edges of the cross on the right side are correctly silver, the cross on the the left side has been completely gilted. So we have here two pieces strucked from two different tools. As Mike said, the cross on right side matches the tool of the Berliner M?nze, today stored in the Bode-Museum in Berlin

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Markus

Two important points you can recognize always from distance:

1.) awarded pieces never have cut-out crosses on the crowns !

2.) awarded pieces habe gilted crowns but the cross is silver !

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NavalMark

Nice case, nice box, but the cross do not match. It is different to those kind of crosses made by the Berliner M?nze. I would expect such an awarded piece in this case. And because of this "exchange" i also worry about the box ............ no problem to change the label from an EK-1st-class-box ........... and no problem to print out the label if i have a box for the Red-Cross 3rd class .............. bad thoughts, but not impossible .............

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NavalMark

4th class with crown (Wagner) in its original case.

Has the 3rd class with swords in post #2 a makers mark ? Is does not look like an awarded piece. The golden border is too wide, the swors are not prussian ..... ?

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NavalMark

4th class model 1864-1879 in its original case. No makers mark.

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Wrong category, here is : The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States

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NavalMark

At least .......... not an officer, but also a PLM-Winner - the cross of S.M.S. ILTIS. A Godet or a Wagner ? :rolleyes:

3rd is Hans Martin Walther, Konteradmiral in 1940 ............

2nd ist Otto von Schrader, mid 1930 years ............

I can add some private shots of naval officers from my collection ..... 1st von Arnauld mid 1920 years

Schwonder, Roderich 1901, 04.10. Pr. Eisernes Kreuz 1914 I. Kl. Kapit?nleutnant 1918, 02.14.R L 50, Kommandant, franz?sische Kriegsgefangenschaft

Schwonder, Roderich 1901, 04.10. DR Erinnerungsabzeichen f?r Marineluftschiffer Kapit?nleutnant 1920, 08.01.S L 13 und L 50, Kommandant

Schwonder entered the imperial german navy in april 1901.

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NavalMark

Here is one i found today in OMJ No. 41:

Buchhalter Karl Pohl from Breslau, approx. 1890.

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NavalMark

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Also still missing in this thread.... silver medal for volunteers from Frankfurt 1814. Not my special field of interest, but i could not resist and gave her home for some time in my collection.

Navalmark

..and the last one ....

...the tag on the storage box:

....more of the mark ....

...the makers mark...

Hello Gentlemen,

here i have a very impressive telescope for a naval gun. On the pics you can see the makers mark Ross, serial number and some advices to its former place : Bi-Turret left. Anyone any informations from what period and what sort of gun this belongs ? Destroyer, cruiser .........

I could buy this nice piece of history and ask me what i should spend total with the wooden box ?

Thanks for your informations and advices,

Best regards

Navalmark

Two small medals worn by one lady:

Prussia, Livesaving-Medal (original size)

Prussia, Red-Cross-Medal (reduction to the same size, silver marked 900)

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NavalMark

I am searching for any informations about the decorations awarded to Parson Ferdinand Dahms of the Berlin St.Georg-Church. He was awarded the Kronen-Orden 3rd Class in 1885 and died in 1891.

So please, if anyone has a prussian roll of decorations - Ordensliste before 1891 - would you have a look for him ?

Thanks and regards

CSForrester

Very nice bars ! Thanks for showing.

The suspension ring on the MEZ may be original, a very early version. Can you recognize two lines like those on the pic on the outer edge of the ring ?

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CSForrester

#1: vom 5. Brandenburgischen Inf.-Rgt. (von St?lpnagel) No. 48

z(ur) Z(eit) Kriegsamt WumBa (?), Inspection der Technischen Instistute der Art. A. V2

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They are shurly not Hapag. The Hamburg-Amerika-Linie had uniform-regulations which were very close to those of the former imperial navy until 1945.

So the golden stripes on the shoulder-boards and also on the sleeves have had for all non-nautical officers a coloured underlay. Engineers from black velvet, medicals from cornflower blue velvet and so on. The coller of the blue jackets were covered with the same material and colour.

And, of cause, the buttons show always the HAPAG-shield on an anchor.

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CSForrester

..and a sailor from S.M.S. EMDEN, pic taken in Konstantinopel after returning. He has already received the Iron Cross 2nd class, the Liakat-medal in silver with swords and the Gallipoli Star. The tally is 100% with golden letters, silver would be much more shining like the white stripes on his collar.

It is Obermatrose Wilhelm S?ss.

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CSForrester