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Yep. it's quite a major manufacturers mistake, unless it's some kind of deliberate variation used by a different unit?

The more I look at this. the more likely it seems to me that the extra holes were caused by a Bavarian wappen having been fitted at some time. It was on long enough to leave an impression on the leather.

Some bad photos of the markings inside the top. If I try hard enough with the right magnifier or camera I should be able to make out more detail.

Can't see it being for that either, I' baffled by this thing.

IInteresting when you watch footage - instead of using their long sticks mounted officers strike with short truncheons, leaning down to use them. not a good idea. It's an indication of how British police were used to dealing with public order situations, a certain lack of experience beyong trudging & wedging, pushing, punching. kicking & if you thought of it using a truncheon.

I can remember the first long batons being issued to me in a county force on the evening of a "rave" before things started.

Issued on the authority of a senior officer only. inspected before issue to you. serial number noted against your name & number. handed in a matter of minutes later. inspected & serial number checked. And then being told authority will never be given for you to use them.

Found it here - originally 6 stripes, post war 8 stripes (I was too lazy to go check books).

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30072173

Can't remember - which version of the patch is this with 8 stripes - there was a version with 6 stripes which would have preceding this one?

First pattern was a green apple on blue diamond wasn't it?

I checked the interweb some years ago. the village of my yugo army & W-SS man. I think it was just inside the Austrian border. There were a couple of addresses there with occupants of his surname. I didn't post those details given his W-SS service. come to think of it I don't think I posted a thread on the books.

Interesting, I don't have a Hungarian, I have Czech, "Yugo" & Rumanian ones to men who were later in the W-SS.

I've always liked documentation with photos, they add another dimension to paperwork, medal groups etc.

A leather one with brass side posts & grey metal wappen, looks like traces of grey paint on it.

The wappen fits the grommetted holes on the tschako which has presumably been utilised by post office or another organisation as there are a couple of holes visible either side of the wappen (or used by another unit prior to Garde?) & the imprint of a cockade on the left side.

There are partly legible markings inside  including "STUTTGARTT" & "1915".

Repro chinstrap, original cockade & now fitted with an very bviously repro field badge.

The wappen puzzles me - the bandeau is ribboned through the points of the star but over the points that are it normally goes under & under the points it normally goes over.

Photos to follow when I can reduce them to an acceptable size.

Photos loaded now, didn't need reducing, must've been a glitch.

I've checked "Britain's Sea Soldiers. a History of the Royal Marines" by Col. G. Field. RMLI. ( 3 volumes, published 1924, )'hoping to find reference to Shipton. but can't.

Interesting mention of an old Marine Private , Johm Sudbury recording Napoleon''s boarding of HMS Bellaraphon on 15 July 1815_ and a claim that a young Napoleon applied for a commission in the British Marines.

Harder to explain to a wife.

At last - I've been trying to find the date indicated by the WD  stamp "X" - a post on this thread shows it as 1959, but with an asterisk - I take it this means the date is in doubt?

Can they explain how when you have your collection sorted at last and then you move to a larger house there is somehow less room for it and it all ends up jumbled and crammed into smaller spaces?

A master stroke. selling them on eBay.

Wonder where he stands in terms of receiving his pension?

Previous for theft and they stick him in charge of the stores - poacher turned gamekeeper may work wiithwiith Regimental Police. but with Colours?

These are sold via the RNIB tho' not just through them. for use by the visually impaired. My mother's planning on getting one. They cost a fair wack new, a lot of them as in over £1000.

Is there a way of taking photos with them?

The fanciest I've got with a magnifier is one of those little electronic ones you rig up to your computer and you can take moving or stills. They are good for small detail but not much else ( I suppose the clue's in the "microscope" bit of the name) .

The Buff display head

Hardly organised? I aspire to hardly organised.

I suppose I could cut down my household tissue wooden stands so that they're staggered heights.

You seen my "Buff" helmet head I posted? OK as a freebie. Better than "realistic" heads, which I don't  like, but the boys head was a freebie from the local tip and fits that Prussian Garde Jaeger officers shako.

Got a spare wappen for it in amongst all those shakos?

Would work well with the headgear side by side and by side by side etc.

Stain and varnish the wood? I fancy using those round or oval mahogany or similar bases you can buy from florists.

Are they foam covered with felt and white cotton?

Deal with the paint - remove or cover it - still seems worthwhile to me.

Never leave items that look like they need a bit of "freshening up" near elderly people - my grandmother would attack gilding with wire wool and Brasso, paper with sellotape, my father did the same with a lovely green patinad 2000 year old bronze axe head and a batch of medieval crossbow bolt headsheads.

Ah, the old ways are the best eh?

Remembered - you might very well find that the new metallic paint will dull right down to something approximating the old with time.

The rope was worn on officers boss badges until amalgamation into the D.E.R.R.s. it continued in the design of the new regiments cap badge.

Henry Shipton seems a familiar name. but I couldn''t have said why - sounds interesting.

Still can't work it out.

Wife's suggested I post a photo of this for identification as she states I have no idea what this is for either.

In my defence, I did offer to buy her a 2nd hand sit on she could ride around the garden on. but she declined my kind offer.

Ta, I have a few of the bags, time to pick up more.

Yes, the little squeegy bottles with the foam pads - if you pressed a little too hard on the things the stuff would pour out and foam.