ChristianUtti

On 27/04/2020 at 15:44, misiu said:

Talking about prices in cases of such extremely rare items is like to carry coals to Newcastle.

In 2007 at the medalhouse auction one of these unissued sets was auctioned ... I will tell you the price per PM

I would subscribe the same price for nowadays. But you never know .. if two crazy roosters compete for such an item, one's mind can suspend very easily.

I sent you PM. 

Hello, 

I totally understand your point. I am currently working with this provenance bacause it is possible to research it based on a history of other sets. Matikkala most probably off closed the other possible sets leaving behind only the set of Prince Henry. Because there are only 10 of them made, 3 unissued in Museums 1 unissued with provenance history to 1920s sold at Helander, the one awarded to Mannerheim and second for display purposes in Mannerheim museum. This leaves us only 4 of which 3 were awarded. 

I am not trying to drive up the price because I am not selling my piece. I am trying to research the provenance and based on that estimate the value of the order. 

Does anybody know where are the orders of other German recipients? 

12 hours ago, ChristianUtti said:

Antti Matikkala made a research about this particular piece based on silver stamps and archive information. Prince Henry of Prussia was actually never delivered the award. The cross stayed in storage of Tillander until it was probably sold out. Lets ask inversely: Where is the set of Prince Henry and is it even possible to prove that this is not an order belonged to him? 

-Christian Utti 

Sorry, I said wrong. Matikkala found out the provenance based on numbering of the stars and archive information. 

Antti Matikkala made a research about this particular piece based on silver stamps and archive information. Prince Henry of Prussia was actually never delivered the award. The cross stayed in storage of Tillander until it was probably sold out. Lets ask inversely: Where is the set of Prince Henry and is it even possible to prove that this is not an order belonged to him? 

-Christian Utti 

Hello, 

I can post a picture later but you can see mine example from Tiainen´s book Suomen kunniamerkit. It is pictured there. And just to make clear that I am not selling it. Only interested in its value. It is very hard to estimate it because of lack of public sales on this particular award.  

-Christian Utti 

2 hours ago, JohanH said:

Hello!

Are you buying or selling?

Is it a complete set? with cross? Breast star? Document?

Since only nine were manufactured and only four ever awarded so the price between issued and unissued is huge. 
As far as I know there is atleast one of the awarded crosses on the private market. Is yours issued or unissued?

Hello, 

I have the awarded one in mine collection. Belonged to Prince Henry of Prussia. It is the only awarded one in private collection. The set comes with box but unfortunately there is no document. The provenance was researched by Phd Antti Matikkala. 

How would you estimate the price of this award and an award without provenance? 

-Christian Utti

Hello Everybody, 

Tell me what you think is worth Grand cross of Liberty cross 1918 with swords?