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I was wondering if you gentlemen might help me ascertain the maker mark on my newest cross. I thought "FR", but it doesn't appear similar to other "FR's" I have seen. Any other thoughts?
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Paul,
Probably a very wise decision, especially when purchasing a piece for which there are doubts, and most especially if it looks like this one. . .
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An L15 variant I find acceptable. Note the "r" shaped clasp utilized with both types. . .
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Trust your instincts. I am skeptical, especially with the absence of pictures. There are some L15 variants that are acceptable, however I have found them to be even rarer than the L/15's. I would pass. . .
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Thank you, Daniel! This is only the second one I had ever seen, so when the opportunity came to add it to my collection, I did not, shall we say, hesitate to seize the opportunity. Indeed, the only other example is not near as tarnishied. I prefer the darker patina on my crosses. . .0
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Yes, Tom, it is of three piece construction, silver with a magnetic "iron" core. Also if you look at the upper inside corner of the left arm (on the obverse scan) just below the edging on the core, or on the upper inside corner of the right arm on the reverse scan) just below the edging on the core, you can see a "hole" for lack of a better term. It does not appear to be the result of the core being off-center so much as, well, I don't know. I am at a loss to explain it, but it is an interesting feature, that's all.0
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Here are the clasp & hinge configuration. What do you gentlemen think?
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Note the absence of any evidence of a seam, indicating one-piece construction as well; a very special cross indeed!
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Here's another example of a post World War I manufactured cross. It appears to have either an Otto Schickle or Alois Rettenmaier pin, hinge, and clasp configuration; they are inded quite similar to my eye. What was even more surprising was the non-magnetic core!
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With my sincere thanks to Micha (motorhead), I have one less to look for in my seemingly never ending quest. . .
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Looks like a textbook Wachtler & L?nge to me. . .0
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I think it depends on condition, and whether or not it is cased. Uncased, and in good condition, I would expect to pay $375+. If you add a case, expect to pay $100+ more, at least in my opinion. . .0
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I have taken the liberty of "hyperlinking" some of your photographs for others to see. I regret to inform you that I believe your cross to be a reproduction. The lack of quality, especially as evident on the "1813" date on the reverse, concerns me greatly. I trust you would be able to obtain a refund. . .
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Dave,
Here's a maker marked "65" for comparison. . .
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And what looks like a copper coated magnetic core?0
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Here is what I believe to be a post World War I manufactured Iron Cross in 1st Class by Deumer. It's similarity to the cross originally posted in this topic thread, which I believe may also be of Deumer manufacture, is worth contributing to this discussion.
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Now in the collection of Joe Campbell. . .
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unmarked, brass core, reverse. . .
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I found another scan of a cross that now resides in the collection of Joe Campbell. . .
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unmarked, possible Alois Rettenmaier (?), and my favorite of the bunch, obverse:
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unknown maker marked Iron Cross, 2nd Class
in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
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Thank you, gentlemen, and I concur, it looks like a "G". Two heads are indeed better than one, or perhaps I should say, many pairs of eyes. I am grateful for your feedback.
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