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Here's a view of the reverse. . .0
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While my friend Micha, also known as "motorhead", is otherwise disengaged from collecting Iron Crosses, I managed to sweep up this "ED" in 2nd Class when he wasn't looking. . .0
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Always helpful to keep abreast of Herr Floch's examples! Thank you, gentlemen!0
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So your best thinking, gentlemen, is that my example is an "IVI" and not an "M"?0
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An extreme close-up of the maker mark. . .0
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Here's another for consideration from, of all people, Joe Campbell. Is it an "M" or an "IVI"? What do you gentlemen think? Either way, it's a beautiful cross, and with a non combatant ribbon!
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I read you loud and clear, Marcus, so let me know if you'd be interested in any additional high resolution scans of the envelopes in my collection.0
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Thanks, Marcus, that is certainly a relief, especially with the proliferation of all manner of reproduction envelopes of issue. . . Hey, that gives me an idea for a topic thread. . .0
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Here are a couple of comparison shots of the reverse of my "800" and another Iron Cross maker marked with a "square" from a colleague's collection. Although the clasp appears similar, the hinge and pin appear, to my old tired eyes, quite dissimilar. What do you gentlemen think?
"square" maker mark reverse:
"800" silver mark reverse:
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Thank you, gentlemen, and yes, I am indeed fortunate to have picked up this "sterling" example. . . See what you started, Joe!0
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Doug,
I don't have a clue. Here is a shot of the reverse with the "800" silver content stamp on the pin. . .
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This just in, an "800" silver marked Iron Cross in 1st Class, 1914. . .
obverse:
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Thank you, gentlemen, and no, Gordon, I do not have a stamped "4". All of the examples of this manufacturer I have seen, including those in our databank on the M.C.F., are like this example, that is, the maker mark is in incused relief. I'd really like to examine in greater detail an example of a stamped "4" of which you speak.0
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envelope of issue obverse:
envelope of issue reverse:
envelope of issue maker stamp:
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I thought to share a recent addition to my collection, a "4" maker marked Iron Cross in 2nd Class for the firm of Steinhaueur & L?ck, L?denscheid with its matching maker stamped envelope of issue. . . Enjoy, and comments welcome!
obverse:
reverse:
maker mark:
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Respectfully, it looks like a "WA" to my old, tired eyes, and if it is indeed a "WA", it is the first one I have seen. Regardless, Mr. Williamson's assessment is, as always, on the "mark", ahem. . .0
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Thanks, stogieman, but if you only know the lengths (of ribbon?) I had to go to get Joe Campbell to trade me for it. . .
And George, while I'm at it, what's with all the muliple packets of bundled ribbons? Odd, like bunnies, they appear to magically multiply. . .
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I'm curious; how can we be sure the ribbon that came with our Iron Cross 2nd Class is, in fact, the ribbon that originally came with the cross when it was awarded?
Just asking. . .
I like to scan my 2nd Class crosses without the ribbon in order to bring out the rich detail of the cross itself, that is, without the "distraction", in a manner of speaking, of the ribbon. . .
Just my opinion. . .
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From the reverse. . .0
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This one's for Joe "I haven't met an Iron Cross I didn't like" Campbell, and my personal favourite. I think if I had to choose one manufacturer of the Iron Cross in 1st Class, 1939, it would be this one, an L/15 Otto Schickle. . .0
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clasp. . .0
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hinge. . .0
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maker mark. . .0
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From the reverse. . .0
"ED" Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914
in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Posted · Edited by Bill Garvy
Purchased as a "CD", these close-up scans reveal this is an "ED", . . .
I think. . .
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