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This one that lists the medals of vgo Kraina: https://vto-orden.com.ua/catalog/layer/vidznaki-obyednannya https://vto-orden.com.ua/catalog/layer/spravzhni-nagorodi-vto-orden-vgo-krayina-ta-vgo-zvityaga I noted it seems to come with at least 5 different ribbons How do people deal with so many different awards been given by so many different authorities for the same thing? If a Ukrainian army member does something brave, does his commander fill a form for state awards, another form for the defence ministry, one for the commander in chief and one for vgo Kraina , Heroldmaster, etc?

What Body gives the Brother for Brother medal? on top of pic , bottom is the gold cross of the commander of the army Like here in this link and here https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/society/08.09.2023-latvian-nurse-gets-ukrainian-state-award.a523186/ it seems to be an award for international soldiers it’s listed on English Wikipedia as state award but not Ukrainian Wikipedia so I don’t think it’s an official state award, it’s not on the Krayina website award list either

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Yes different countries have different wordings on rules for this matter and how they are enforced, I’m just saying that it might be that the VGO Kraina doesn’t really want to bother hiring a Polish a British a Spanish an Italian a German etc lawyer to explain them the particularities of local laws, and they just don’t publish the data if there’s any regulations that may or may not hinder the receiver of the award from wearing/accepting the award You and I may say ‘Kraina’ is not an organisation of highest order, but I doubt any Polish court has ever ruled on the issue, and Kraina might just play it safe and not publish the data for certain countries , and if it’s only to save them having to pay a lawyer . Or in Britain, technically by the wording of law you need permission from the King to accept and wear foreign awards, again , no one enforces that . But an organisation like Kraina certainly doesn’t want to bother with the intricacies of laws in so many countries and just play it safe just my 2cnts

Among The 7 recorded on the Orden website are groups of people, it says volunteers (plural) from belorus , Azerbaijan, Dagestan, but the volunteer on x is polish, maybe there are legal or confidentially reasons why they don’t post awardees from certain countries, in some countries you need a permission from your country to accept foreign awards, so in practicality you get the award, then apply at some burocrstic office to be allowed to accept it and then wait several month for an answer. If that’s the case with Poland it may be that the Orden website is legally required to wait with publishing the awarding for a confirmation that the particular home state has allowed the award. And they probably never get that confirmation even when the state allows the award to be officially accepted and worn, if that makes sense

There seems to be another version of the award for foreign fighters now, the previously posted version seems to be for civil volunteers now according to the vgo-Orden website Manufactured by WTO "ORDEN" Award with special status Badge of National Honor "FOR OUR AND YOUR FREEDOM" The award is given exclusively to foreigners: legionnaires, military personnel, and volunteers who, with weapons in their hands, support Ukraine in its struggle for its independence during the Russian-Ukrainian war. Date of establishment: January 1, 2023 The motto of the award: "Together we will win. Simul ad victoriam "

I see 🙂 now it makes sense thank you _||_

Ah so do I understand this right, if commander Danilo wants to award his boys he orders a set of these and hands them out with documents and stamps and what, and then it’s kindof official worn below more official awards, but in principal Alexandr who works at the car dealership in Lviv and likes shiny medals can buy himself one and there will be a certificate from Vgo-Kraina with it. But there won’t be a stamp from the army on it. Did I get that right ?

It seems the first one can be bought at various places with different clasps like here Kharkiv , Bakhmut, Mariupol

How legit are these medals ( seen on eBay ) ?

You sir have truly the eyes of an eagle 🙂

You’re missing the Awards of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not to be confused with the Awards of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ( you have those ). You can find those here https://uht-org-ua.translate.goog/forum/viewforum.php?f=154&sid=cf54997e9089fa6806c3ad46eca43019&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_sch=http and here https://uk-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Відзнаки_Головнокомандувача_Збройних_сил_України?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp the ones you have are from before June 2022 ( The post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was separated from the post of Chief of the General Staff on March 27, 2020 in accordance with Art. 8 of the Law of Ukraine "On the Armed Forces of Ukraine". Until June 2022, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces used the Chief of the General Staff badge system. The honorary badges of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are established in accordance with the Order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine No. 411 of December 23, 2021 "On the honorary badges of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine", which finally entered into force on June 1, 2022: ) they look like picture yiu can see the ‘for the help of the army’ that has been shared here is part of that batch, there are also pictures of actual medals not symbol pictures on the first link, sometimes with recepients, ive seen these being handed out at least since September 2022 i’m not sure about the order of wear with the 4 crosses, sometimes it says Brave,Steel,Silver,Gold sometimes Brave,Gold,Silver,Steel though The medal in the back left is the combatants cross of the commander in chief of the armed forces the seven in front are order for courage III, no idea on the one back right

What could be the reason for the Cross of Military Merit to be delivered with an alternative red/black ribbon ( similar to the one on the Commander of the Armed Forces Gold Cross )?