lilo

I believe that the lower left breast star (with 16 points) he is wearing in the photo of post #170, is that of Thailand, Knight Commander of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant.

In later photos (as that in color of post #171), He wear the breast star of the Thailand, Order of the Elephant, Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class)

..................That first photo of Togo was extraordinary with the close-up. Not only is he wearing the Manchukuo Order of the Illustratious Dragon, but tucked into an obscure corner, is the Qing Empire Order of the Double Dragon

Regarding the post #68 ...........

I believe that in the 'obscure corner' we have not the 'Qing Empire Order of the Double Dragon' but the breast star of the Manchukuo, Order of the Pillars of State.

What is this?!

I mean this first medal/order in the bar???

A propos of the first Order in the medal rack of posts #57 and #58, it is the Chilean Order of Merit.

Se the photo below

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Dear Lilo,

please re-read Alex question

His medal rack doesn't contain anything international.

Cheers,

Nick

You are correct !

Please don't take offence : I have read all the posts in a hurry so the mistake is on my part.

Regards

Lilo

................................... Nothing international I am afraid.

Cheers,

Nick

Indeed He is wearing the :

1) (Nazi) Order of the German Eagle (neck badge + breast star) without swords

2) Romanian Order of the Crown, 1st type without swords (neck badge);

3) Japan, Order of the Rising Sun (breast Star);

4) Japan, Order of the Sacred Treasure (breast Star);

5) Manchukuo, Order of the Auspicious Clouds (breast Star) .

Hi Lilo I stand corrected thanks for clearing those details up, I should have referenced the London Gazette to see he was awarded both the Military Cross and Leopold during WWI. I agree that the picture doesn't clearly show the black enamel very well but indeed it was not a CdeG. Glad you were able to find more information on the Earl's interesting combination of awards.

Jeff

Thanks to you !

Cheers

Lilo

Hi Lilo, sorry I have been away during the holidays, I have not seen any award of the French CdeG to the Earl of Athlone during the Second World War in WO 373. I am quite certain he did not receive one as he is not wearing one in his National Gallery portrait in 1953. The last three foreign decorations he is wearing that I can see are the Officer of the Legion of Honour, WWI French CdeG, and what appears to be the WWI Belgian CdeG (although wikipedia states he received the Belgian Military Cross)

While Govenor General of Canada during the Second World War it appears he also received the Grand Cordon of the Belgian Order of Leopold, however I'm not aware of any other decorations he received during that time. If he did receive any more I'm confident they would all be high level orders from allied nations due to his status as GG. Hope this is of some help.

Jeff

No problem at all and thanks so much for your very interesting answer !!!

Please let me do some considerations......

1) Concerning the WW2 French CdG, I completely agree with you and now I'm certain that the ribbon with the palm I have seen in the WW2 photo I posted some entry above (#47), is indeed that of the WW1 French CdG;

2) You say - Quote : "in his National Gallery portrait in 1953 he is wearing what appears to be the WWI Belgian CdeG (although wikipedia states he received the Belgian Military Cross)"

Unquote :

First of all, we all must consider that the two awards are identical in shape (see the photo I posted at the bottom of this writing). However and in my humble opinion, I'm quite sure that He received the Belgian Military Cross and not the WWI Belgian CdeG so the London Gazette entry is correct. This for the reasons below listed (I'll report a summary of what a couple of very experienced collectors and researchers told me on this matter) :

- the awards listed in the London Gazette and the terms used are printed therein basing on the information provided to the War Office by the Belgian authorities and none of those involved in the British side usually had any information as to what award had actually been given by the Belgians. Although the most likely award would normally have been the Croix de Guerre, this seems odd for a Prince of Royal Blood and so I very much doubt it would have been a "Croix de Guerre" which the London Gazette has no problem in naming as such on other occasions. For this, I think, it is safe to conclude that the "Croix Militaire" in the London Gazette is the correct decoration Earl of Athlone received.

- I also have analyzed the 1953 portrait of Earl of Athlone held in the National Gallery (to which you refer) and I noted something on the ribbon of the last Cross (Belgian Military Cross) : it seems to me that this ribbon bears a Rosette on it and this is impossible if we were in the presence of the Belgian WW1 CdG but -on the contrary- it is perfectly plausible if it is the Belgian Military Cross. In fact, the Belgian Military Cross was awarded in two classes :

- 1st class, is identified with a ROSETTE on the ribbon;

- 2nd class, without the ROSETTE.

According to the rank of Earl of Athlone, it is very reasonable to think that he received a 1st class of this award.

- Last, I believe that for the low resolution of the photo in question, the black enamel of the arms of the Cross is not visible.

3) To be correct, Earl of Athlone didnt received the Grand Cordon of the Belgian order of Leopold in WW2 but in WW1 (see : pag. 9642 THE LONDON GAZETTE, 1 OCTOBER, 1915)

Regards

Lilo

Hi there,

watch this,

http://www.unacita-deutschlandbuero.info/

Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks so much for this wounderful Help !

Best Regards

Lilo

Hi Uwe, thanks so much for your great help ! All the Best Lilo

That's my thought right now...

Ok, but what exactly it could be ?

From a little re-search on the web, I discovered that only 332 awards of this Order were made in Total (till this became obsolete) so not a large search. Anyone that can help, please ?

Any stars around the "E"?

I don't know because this is the best resolution I have of this award.

Do you think about something related with UE ?

Hi All,

I would like to know if someone could identify the following Cross and/or Medal with a central 'E'.

I suspect it is a relatively recent non-official award.

I have made this question here because the mystery award is part of a medal group to a French Foreign Legion member (then a British SAS member). He was a member of FFL in the '50s.

Hoping to receive an answer

Regards

Lilo

can you post the pic?

I'v a award date of 16 April 1918 for the Croix du Guerra furing ww1 but cant find anything for a ww2 award,where did you find mention of a ww2 award?

It would appear by examining a couple of photos (although they are not so clear) that he received it.

its mentioned in his wiki profile are looking for his Gazette entry?

Hi paddywhack,

thank you for your answer but what was reported on wikipedia (that also contain numerous mistakes)is the corret award of the French WW1 Croix de Guerre.

My question was made to have confirmed the same award but for WW2

Regards

Lilo

Dear All,

on Wikipedia (known to be Not so accurate) it is reported that :

British Brigadier General Alexander Augustus Frederick William Alfred George Cambridge (1874-1957) -Viscount Trematon in the county of Cambridge and Earl of Athlone- was awarded with the Kingdom of Saxony, Order of the Rue Crown (German: Hausorden der Rautenkrone) see :

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Rue_Crown

- http://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/hausorden-der-rautenkrone-ordenskreuz-vergl-oek.html

My 2 Questions :

1. Can anyone confirm or not this award to him ?

2. In any case, if not possible to establish this award with precision, can you say me if it was probably awarded or is it more certain that He never received it ?

Many Thanks for any answer youll try to help me

Best Regard

Lilo

Hi Jeff, It's a great reading your report about your search ! I apologise in advance for the following off topic but I would like to know if you have found the award of the French WW2 Croix e Guerre (War Cross) to : Brigadier General Alexander Augustus Frederick William Alfred George Cambridge (1874-1957) -Viscount Trematon in the county of Cambridge and Earl of Athlone Can you let me know, please ? Merry Christmas to you and All Lilo

Hi Guy, Many Thanks for your great help ! Following you can see the person who was awarded with it :

Hi All,

Below I have attached a photo of a mystery Cross (please click on it to enlarge) that was worn by an High Ranking Officer in a medal group.

What I can say to help in its identification is :

- The photo is dated 1929;

In the Cross I noted :

- a clear central 'S';
- what seems to be a sword put with the point up along all the vertical arm of the cross;
- the perimetral edge of the Cross seems to be outlined (note the darker colour of the internal area of the arms of the Cross and the clear border of the same arms);

I hope that someone could be able in correctly identify this Cross.

Best Regards

Lilo

Yes, it's lady !

I think british nurse receive these 3 awards

Hi Igor,

which is her name ?

Hi cimbineus,

You are quite corret on saying this but, unfortunately, I have already contacted the musuem and they answered me that they don't realase such informations. This is the reason of all those questions to you that you have kindly answered.

Many thanks again for your help

Regards

Lilo

Hi cimbineus,

Again I must thank you very much for the answers you gave me.

In the next future I'll send a friend of mine to the museum where these awards are held for taking more clear photos that I'll post here in the hoping that they will be more clear than those I posted here till now.

Kind Regards

Lilo

This, instead, is the award made to a Lt. Col. Umberto MADDALENA :

Again….

- Is it an ‘ORDER’ or a ‘Cross’ ?

- Which class is it ?