SasaYU

Count me in.

He acted in para-military separatist forces of Croatia.

I think Glasnovic is not Yugoslav general !!??

So,

Anatoly, great pictures !!!

Very rare piece. Thanks for sharing.

Medal for merit to the people does have latin letters.

Gentlemen,

a theory:

Might it be possible, that in Slovenia & Croatia the (Austrian) triangle ribbon had been more common and in Serbia the (Russian) five sided suspension had been more common ?

Best regards

Christian

BTW: Catholic vs. Orthodox Christianity .

CHRISTIAN,

there were no differences in issuing medals between republics of Yugoslavia.

SasaYU!

Why medals on triangle ribbons are available on the markets so offen?

Maybe because they can be faked easily.?

Anatoly,

those ribbons are not correct.

Labour medal and Medal for merit to the people have 5 sided ribbons.

Pin of border units of Yugoslav peoples army.

Here are correct datas:

Order for merit to the people awarded since june 1945. untill 31. december 1985.

1. class : 4.668

2. class : 39.534

3. class : 282.864

Medal for merit to the people

430.666

Oups so Pukovnik means Colonel.

Thanks for the correction.

You are welcome.

General rule of history: Anything that has ever required any government to pay money or extend befefits to their citizens has given birth to mounds of paper detailing how much, and what, and to whom, and for how long. Likewise, anything that ever cost that government any money to make (or buy) -- like ODM -- had leagues of bookkeepers watching over the process and recording the expenditures.

Who can access the (former) Yugoslavian archives -- assuming they still exist. Where are they anyway?

Archives are in Belgrade and yes they should exist.

I have acquired a worn out II Class with document to Karel Pukovnik. It was awarded in december 1945 and it has a very low serial number.

Soviet,

order was awarded to dr Karel Oberslik, Colonel.

If there is no carying document - then how was it noted (other than a formal document) that a worker or soldier was entitled to wear certain awards? Was this noted in the workers book or the soldiers book? Thanks

Law about decorations (orders and medals) was changing after the WWI. Firs was issued on 12. 06. 1945., second on 14. 12. 1955., revised on 15. 03. 1961., and then again in 15. 04. 1964. Afther the revision, new Law about decorations was issued in july 1973., which was revised in 1976., and again in 1985.

Certificates and charters:

According to the Law about decorations of Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia from 1986.:

Certificate was issued to the bearer of the order or medal.

For higher rank orders diploma or charter was issued. Charter was issued for Order of grand star of Yugoslavia, Order of freedom, Order of national hero, Order of hero of socialist work, Order of national liberation, Order of war flag, Order of Yugoslavian flag with sash, Order of partisan star with gold and silver wreath, Order of Republic with gold and silver wreath, Order for merit to the people with gold star, Order of brotherhood and unity with gold wreath, Order of work with red flag, Order of the peoples army with laurel wreath and Order for military merit with grand star.

According to the same law there was a penalty of 10.000 to 50.000 dinars or imprisonment of 30 days if unauthorized person wears decoration (order or medal).

Third class definitely does not exist.

Christian, order on the picture can be a fake or a one with an enamel worn out.

There is also that what Milan says about IKOM.

Hi Valuk / Lep pozdrav.

Order of merit to the people is given for special merits in combat against enemy and for liberation of the country, for merit in building of socialism and self goverment, for organising and strengthening of defence, security and independence of the country and also for merits in the field of economy, science and culture.

Every order had it's own document (povelja) as one that Ed scanned.

System in Yugoslavia was different than in Hungary or other countries of Eastern block.

As far as I know only two orders had carying document:

Order of national hero and Commemorative order 1941 (Partizanska spomenica 1941)

Medal for bravery Milos Obilic was instituted on 12. 07. 1913. by the order of King Peter I Karageorgevich. Medal was assigned for "proved bravery on the battlefield" or "fearless bravery in battle".

Medal for bravery Milos Obilic had 2 clases (gold and silver) and was manufactured in Switzerland by Huguenin Frėres.

During the WW I medals were also made by "Arthus Bertrand", Paris.

Gold medal for bravery was given to officers, and silver medal to lower rank officers and soliders.

Medal was made of gold and silver gilted bronze in two sizes 36 and 30 mm.

As far as I know, there was no carrying document for Orders of Yugoslavia except for Order of national hero and Commemorative order 1941 (Partizanska spomenica 1941)

thank you SasaYU

best regards

Anytime wlodzimierz

Dear Sasa,

many thanks for your generous offer .

I am lucky to have all the matching miniatures to my YU-Orders, but I might come back to your offer for other things.

BTW: Do you know the dealer Milan from "Singidunum" ?

Best regards & Pozdrav

Christian

I do not know him in person. Yes, Singidunum is one of the dealers for orders and medals and miniatures in Serbia.

Project: 3rd Class of that Order

Gentlemen,

has anyone informations and/or scans of the 3rd class (project!) of that order ?

Many thanks in advance .

Best regards

Christian

BTW: I think, that "Brotherhood & Unity" is one of the most beautiful YU-Awards - struck out of one solid piece of silver and with that nice medallion of tomback, showing the YU coat of arms and 26 stars .

Christian, as far as I know there is no 3rd class of Order of Brotherhood & Unity

It means:

Member of the Central Comitee of the Romanian Communist party, Head of the department in Central Comitee of the Romanian Communist party

Christian,

write your interest on PM, and I will try to find what you need.