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Tomorrow i will have a look at this cross. Any help is welcome Looking forward to your opinion and thanks.

Thanks Joe and Micha. Micha is Philipp militaria a trusty dealer? What would be a nice buy Micha looking to the EK's?

No one???????

Thanks again Vince

Hey guys, I would like help on this cross Thanks Vince

A other try for the pictures and your opinion on this cross.

Hey Micha, I think this is the best i can do considering i can only post 100kb pictures thanks vince

Hey Joe and Greg, I see what you guys mean. On the lower leg of the cross is a strange bent. If i look closer it looks like something has been brusched against it. Maybe somebody tryed to clean it. The cross is in silver and has been tested. The hinge is high on the cross but it seems not to been added later. I seen crosses with a high hinge,but i am not the expert. For the detail on the front, the picture is not sharp. The feel of the cross is good and it looks like it has indured some hard times. If the crosse is a fake,do you think the makers would make it in silver Joe? Thanks for the help and looking forward to your answer. Vince

back open and stamp thanks for your help guys vince

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What is the opinion on this cross?

Hey David, just reading your post. I will try lifting the vail for you,but you have to forgive my Englisch. It is true that ships are scutteld due to opening what you are naming the "seacocks". It is not true (as far as i know after 26 years in the navy) that ships have build in sinking installations. What is happening in wartime is if a ship is in danger of falling in the hands of the enemy,the ship will be scutteld. This can be done by opening the seachest so the water runs in to the bilges of the ship and the ship will sink. Now for the seachest.This is like a box connected to a pipe who runs to the cooling pump of the engines. The other side is connected also with a pipe and runs to the outside of the ship under the waterline. this pipe has a valve that can be closed and opend to let the seawater in.The seachest act as a filter so inpurities will not enter the cooling pumps.Also in the seachest are blocks of zinc that eliminates "electrolise". This is a fenomenon witch occures when seawater runs allong metals.To put it simple the metals are eaten away by the water. You put a soft metal in and it will eat the soft metal first,so your pipes and other metal parts are spared. What happens if the orders come for scutteling. The seachest are opend so the seawater runs freely into the ship with due cause. Somethimes explosives are placed on these and the pipes,but time has to permit this.

ccj, Most of my collection is navy related.I have a special interrest in the german navy during WWI and that in the small units who worked allong the Belgian coast.The most known of that period are the submarines and that's where most collectors are found.I am interrested in the small units working in the harbours and on the coast laying and recovering mines and naturely the mines especialy. vince

ccj, I live by the see (northsee) and it whas the playground for the german navy during WWI and WWII.As for my interrest in mines,i work with them on a daily base. vince

Thanks for the picture Rick! This is my collection area (mines) and the men who worked with them. vince

Thanks Rick,looking forward to it.

Al these come of the same wreck.The buckle has no makers mark.As for the finding of the buckle in this wreck,there is no surprise.Many of the ships like kriegfishkutters or vorpostenboote used by the kriegsmarine where mand by older personel who served in pre war time in the merchand navy and reichsmarine. The uniforms where first given to the crews of the "real figthing ships" so the crews on the boats not so important had to waith.The crews on these kutters where a mix of everything.Even man of the regular army served on them if thy where no good to go in the first lines. What is TR Rob? vince

Who has any idee who made these buckles?

As you can see in the picture i found also a silk nelson's tie in perfect condition. I found two of those in the same wreck. This one has a little damage on the back because it whas entangled in wreckage.

Who has pictures of this speciality badge on uniforms? thanks taucher