sean1

Just wished to add my thoughts and condolences to all those effected by this disaster

sean

Could be worth researchin if he is entitled to the Defence Medal for WW2 service? noticing the ARP badge.

I was wondering if anybody had a step by step guide to mounting German awards in the Imperial Court style?

On numerous occasions I have mounted British/Commonwealth medals, but this is something I would really like to try.

If anybody can help out I would be most grateful.

As a afterthought are modern German medals still mounted in this manner?

Sean.

Absolutely brilliant Im enjoying this thread very much

Not a;;..............

Not all Australians will become rebels I can assure you and this debate will do nothing but divide our country. And Ed with all due respect why do you think that the Aboriginal flag is more worthy than the Union flag representing the majority Anglo Celtic peoples of my country who have suffered Starvation, Flood, Fire, Drought, War to build this country to what it is today one of the worlds longest continuing democracies.

Just an observation, but isnt that the royal coat of arms on the inside of the VC case presented to Trooper Donaldson, as it is still made in London I would presume so?

The full citation, as reproduced in various broadsheets:

I think Johnson Beharry earned his VC.

PK

Absolutely

I have been trying for years now, to work out why my grandfather didn't qualify for a long service medal in the Royal Australian Navy. He served 27 years from 1920 to 1947, first as a Stoker on various ships and then as he was too old to go on overseas service in WWII, he served as a Dockyard (Naval) Police Constable in Sydney Harbour. I have his War Medal and Australian Service Medal but that's it.

Family history says he served in the First World War as well - in the Navy but in Home waters as he was too young at the time. It seems he had two diiferent Service Numbers. He lost two brothers in the Army in France.

I have written to Honours Directorate but they just say he didn't get one - Long Service medal.

Any ideas ?

Greg.

Greg the former Imperial awards required not only long service but good conduct, perhaps for example there was a incident that precluded him from receiving the medal. Get a copy of his service record and have a look.

Sean

I stand corrected as I just checked ASOD, from ASOD:

"The order of precedence for emblems of Australian citations is Unit Citation for Gallantry then

Meritorious Unit Citation. Foreign awards are worn after Australian awards and are worn in the order of

the date awarded except that if two or more awards by one nation are worn, awards are placed in the

order of precedence determined by that nation."

F##ckig pongos always make it difficult. Navy wears theirs below their medals.

Regards,

Johnsy

Edit: I hope the RSM gave him a kick in the 'arris.

HAha, Its one of many photos doing the rounds of Australian soldiers wearing medals etc in the incorrect order of precedence. I think some of the RSMs may need a kick up the 'arris.

I always wondered why Navy didnt follow the US navy re citations and wear them as part of their ribbon bars, then when medals are worn transfer the citation to the right breast. Much neater in my opinion.

The Australian Unit Citation for Gallantry is closest to his heart, i.e. left hand side, therefore correct precedence has been maintained.

Regards,

Johnsy

Johnsy, Army Standing Orders of Dress show that the Australian citations should be worn closest to the right shoulder in order of precedence, so that when facing the wearer they are the senior award, followed by the foreign citations in order of their date awarded.

Regards

Sean.

This digger was involved in the bearer party for the return of one of the Vietnam era MIA's. Notes that the citations are worn in the incorrect order, the Australian Unit Citation for Gallantry should take precedence over the US one.