HeikoGrusdat

Thank you very much for help Karlo, great job 

Nr. 2 is Karl Wedding, no doubt on this

.... Wenn ich mir ganz viel Mühe gebe dann klappts grad so 

Right... And of course the ribbon bar is fixed in wrong direction on the display 

Prince Carnival 

Hello all, 

I need your help.... Anyone has a photo of Friedrich Schultz, Konteradmiral and Vizeadmiral during ww1??? He was commander of 2. and 1. Marine Division, and before the war for example commander of SMS VINETA.... 

I am not able to find any photo in the net... It doesn't matter if he is young or old in your photo... Hope someone has a Pic 

Thanks for your help 

Heiko

He has a very nice handwriting 

Interesting document, thanks for showing 

Hi Karsten, 

in 1916 his award docs etc... have been sold by HH, did you get them there? In the auction description a personal diary is mentioned... Maybe there are some informations included. By the way, the auction title calls him "Oberst" 

Congrats mate very nice bar

Interesting....it seems that the forst ribbon was a full size ribbon that has been cut in the middle to fit the ribbon bar size

I am no expert in these things but they look great really great... Congrats on that and keep them in the family 

Mira when you find the time it would be great to show us these items from the China time you have in the family 

Mira that info from his Bremen address is from the adressbook of the Marine Offiziers Verein in which he was a member. 

That was my thinking too... He got the bear with swords for complete being in China... I think there were not too many men from Anhalt - if it was for a special combat action I would expect a KO4X too...not only the award from his home state

Think so...must have been between the second half of 1890 and the first half of 1891....in the 1890 ranklist there is no one with this order and in the 1891 ranklist there are 3 officers of the regiment with Persia sun and lion

a bit off topic...but just for illustration - another little Waldeck-Persia-combo... Regimentsadjudant Premier-Lieutenant von Lengerke IR83

Nice pic - nice price

After the war he was in Bremen as Teilhaber (co-owner) of the Zigarrenfabrik Gerbrüder Bornemann

He lived in Delbrückstr.10 in Bremen

Mira, yes this is what he did during the ww1... But it is not an U it is an A... It means Reichs-Marine-Amt

Very nice bar Claudio 

Agreed

Hello Mira, back as promised....

That`s what we are doing....collecting and researching , digging out the details from the dust of history.

The informations of the orders and awards given to your great-grandpa are from so called Ranglisten , in these lists all the officers of the army and the navy were listed , with their ranks and positions and with the awards they got - the only small problem is that Prussian Ranglisten only showed the real orders , not awards or simple medals for some wars for example.

Then we have another source to use , it is the DOA (Deutscher Ordens Almanach) , the one from 1908 I attached...in this book are all awards listed (with some luck) a man got....so we can try to complete the story this way.

Now a closer look....

in 1908 he had the PrZm - Preussen Zentenarmedaille or Centenarmedaille to remember the 100.birthday of Kaiser Wilhelm I. in 1897 , nothing special , given to all man who were in active service in 1897 and to the Vets of the former wars + some other groups of men.

Then he had the DChM - Chinadenkmünze , that sows that he has been to China with the Kreuzergeschwader in 1901 during the Boxer uprising

PrKr4 - Preussen Kronenorden 4.Klasse , nearly the lowest ranking order a officer got during his career

AnhA3bX - thats a bit more interesting , Anhalt Orden Albrecht des Bären Ritterkreuz 2.Klasse mit Schwertern , I think he got this because he was a Anhalt native and the swords indicate that it was given as a combat award for some action in China , but I have to check this...

The next list I attached for you is from 1914 , interesting because it is before the great war. Here you dont see the medals , only the orders... now he got a Long service cross for officers for 25 years of service ( possible at that time because war years and oversee years count double)

Next is the Preussen Roter Adler Orden 4.Klasse mit der Krone - typical award for navy officers after some years of service

and the a foreign order , SS3a is the Schwert Orden of Sweden , Ritterkreuz

Now jump to the end of the war....in 1918 you don`t see the Schwert Orden from sweden anymore because only german and awards of their allied nations were listed during the war...

He got the AF - Anhalt Friedrichskreuz , again because Anhalt was his home state....

HH is the Hanseatenkreuz from Hamburg

EK1 - Eisernes Kreuz 1.Klasse , that means that he have got the 2.Klasse too - these last 3 were typical ww1 awards

as I said earlier , I am shure that he has got some more orders and awards during that last war year because the Rangliste 1918 is from 14.2.1918 - so 9 more months left to get some bling bling as commander of the Transportflotte to Finland he sould have got something more.

That`s it for now....I gave you the german names of his orders so you can make googlesearches to see what they look like.

all the best , if you have any questions we are here

Heiko

That picture is taken in the Kaiser Wilhelm Kanal in Germany, today known as Nord-Ostsee-Kanal

Will post you a complete explanation tonight when I am back home 

Hi Mira,

don`t know if you know all the orders and awards your great-grandpa got during his career....so here are some of them , the late war awards from the Finland time are not listed here so maybe he have got some more.... hope this helps a bit...

all the best

Heiko

this is from 1908

this is from 1914

and this from 1918