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Uwe, you are right, I have just had a good look at the tab through a spy glass, and the I is an L, in the publication that I have it says Baimberger and not Balmberger, thanks for that Info

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Hi all, I should have bought this buckle ages ago but luckily it was sat quietly in Bill Sheas for sale bits for ages and now I have it. It is only the second buckle by this maker that I have seen, hence I should have bought it when I first saw it. Anyway, nice Heer buckle by the maker Carl Balmberger from Nurnberg, he was not on the M4 makers list but I believe had a M1 contract, an M9 and maybe another. Another nice rare maker goes into the collection

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Hi guys,this is my new addition to the Heer collective. A nice alu buckle by Louis Keller Oberstein, up until now a maker missing from the collection. It came with a P C Turck but the tab is not original to the buckle so that is going back, such is life the search continues

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Hi guys, could not resist this one, I have a couple of these but this is a nice buckle. The detailing is still very sharp and it still has alot of paint on the front of the buckle, also the leather tab stamping is nice and clear, just how I like them

That is the Nash book, there is also the Angolia

If you need any info on any of these makers ie makers marks etc have a look at this site that I Moderate, it is quite useful http://warrelics.eu/forum/german-third-rei...-m4-makers.html

This is a list of non M4 makers, there are lots and lots guys, this is what I actually know of: 1: C W Motz, Brandenberg 2: Robert Dold, Offenberg (RODO) 3: Schmidt & Co, Schwelm 4: J C Maedicke, Berlin 5: J Deutschebein GmbH, Euskirchen 6: L Gottlieb & Sohne, Oberstein 7: Gebruder Albert, Menden 8: HCH Schwerter, Menden 9: Schmole & Comp, Menden 10: Werner Linker, Duisberg 11: Wilhelm Binder, Schwab Gmund 12: Kollmann & Jourdan, Pforzheim 13: Hermann Knoller, Pforzheim 14: Gebruder Deyhle, Schwab Gmund 15: Friedrich Turch, Ludenscheid 16: Franz Reischauer, Oberstein 17: P.C Turch, Ludenscheid 18: Louis Keller, Oberstein 19: Gustav Hermann Osang, Dresden 20: Philipp Turka, Wien 21: Heinrich Ulbrichts Witwe, Wien 22: Schmal & Schulz, Wuppertal-Barmen 23: K & N Kurbi u Niggeloh, Radevormwald 24: E F Weidmann, Frankfurt A.M 25: Ehrhadt & Firsten, Leipzig

Hi guys, this is the official M4 makers list: M4/1 Ferdinand Hoffst?tter, Bonn M4/2 M. Winter, M?nchen M4/3 Kallenbach, Meyer & Franke, Luckenwalde M4/4 Gustav Emil Ficker, Beierfeld M4/5 Leistner & Co., L?denscheid M4/6 C. & W. Meindel-Scholer, Klingenthal M4/7 Hermann Sprenger, Iserlohn M4/8 Rudolf Wachtler & lange Mittweida M4/9 Albert Winges, Trusen M4/10 Bernhard Haarmann, L?denscheid M4/11 August Enders AG, Ludenscheid M4/12 Mathias Kutsch, Attendorn M4/13 Paul Schuhmacher, L?denscheid M4/14 Otto Fechler, Bernsbach M4/15 Paul Meybauer, Berlin M4/16 Robert Tummler, Dobeln M4/17 Ernst Meissner, Hohenlimburg M4/18 Julius Bauer & S?hne, Zella-Mehlis M4/19 Ernst Schneider, L?denscheid M4/20 Hillenbrand & Broer, Ludenscheid M4/21 Hans Schonfelder, Mittweida M4/22 Christian Theodor Dicke, Ludensheid M4/23 Franke & Co., L?denscheid M4/24 Friedrich Linden, L?denscheid M4/25 Noelle & Huck, L?denscheid M4/26 Offenberg-Engels, Iserlohn M4/27 Overhoff & Cie, L?denscheid M4/28 Paulmann & Crone, L?denscheid M4/29 K. E Brahm, F?rth M4/30 Berg & Nolte, L?denscheid M4/31 Max Haufe, Grossrohrsdorf M4/32 Gebr?der Hahne, L?denscheid M4/33 J. D. von Hagen G.m.b.H., Iserlohn M4/34 Nordwall & Welschehold, Dransfeld & Co, Menden M4/35 Moeller & Schr?der, Offenbach M4/36 Knopffabrik von Hofe & Co., L?denscheid M4/37 Stefan Merkl, N?rnberg M4/38 Richard Sieper & S?hne, L?denscheid M4/39 F W. Assmann & S?hne, L?denscheid M4/40 Giesse & Schmidt, Ruhla M4/41 Schmal & Schulz, Wuppertal-Barmen M4/42 Hermann Aurich, Dresden M4/43 R. A. Erbe, Schmalkalden M4/44 Paul Cramer & Co., L?denscheid M4/45 Cramer & Dombach, L?denscheid M4/46 Wilhelm Schroder & Co., L?denscheid M4/47 Ebberg & Co., L?denscheid M4/48 P C Turch Wwe, Ludenscheid M4/49 Steinhauer & Luck, L?denscheid M4/50 Willi Thuy, L?denscheid M4/51 Homer & Dittermann, Wuppertal-Bannen M4/52 Linden & Funke G.m.b.H., Iserlohn M4/53 Zieh-Press-und Stanzwerk G.m.b.H., Zwintschona M4/54 Wilhelm Annetsberger, M?nchen M4/55 Julius Kremp, L?denscheid M4/56 Friedrich Keller, Oberstein M4/57 Julius Maurer, Oberstein M4/58 Wilhelm Deus, Solingen M4/59 Adolf Baumeister, L?denscheid M4/60 Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen M4/61 Julius Dinnebier, L?denscheid M4/62 Arld Heinrich, N?rnberg M4/63 Werner Redo, Saarlautern M4/64 Otto Geiger, L?denscheid M4/65 Georg Bonitz, Schwarzenberg M4/66 Stimming & Venzlaff, Altenburg M4/67 Emil Juttner, L?denscheid M4/68 Norddeutsches Nickel-und Silberwaren G.m.b.H., Hamburg M4/69 Meyer & Wilhelm, Stuttgart M4/70 Kugel & Fink, L?denscheid M4/71 Lehmann & Wundenberg, Hannover M4/72 Wilhelm Deumer, L?denscheid M4/73 Lohmann & Welschehold, Meinerzhagen M4/74 Wilhelm Geiger G.m.b.H.; L?denscheid M4/75 Walter Demmer, L?denscheid M4/76 Petz & Koch, Unterreichenbach M4/77 Gebr?der Gloerfeld, L?denscheid M4/78 E K. Vogelsang & Co., L?denscheid M4/79 Hillenbrand & Br?er, L?denscheid M4/80 Lind & Meyrer, Oberstein M4/81 Inhaber Frau Johanna Kaukal, Wien M4/82 List & Hertl, Wien M4/83 (unknown as yet) M4/84 Grossmann & Co., Wien M4/85 Friedrich Bibus & Sohn, Mahrisch-Trubau M4/86 Sohni, Heubach & Co., Oberstein M4/87 Matthias Salcher & S?hne, Wagstadt M4/88 August Hieke, Tyssa bei Bodenbach M4/89 Reichelmann & Co, Tellnitz bei Aussig M4/90 Adolf Grohmann & Sohn, Wurbenthal M4/91 (unknown as yet) M4/92 Heinrich Ulbrichts Witwe, Wien M4/93 Lenkwerk Br?der Schneider, Wien M4/94 Raimond Moser, Wien M4/95 Franz Weinrank, Wien M4/96 Eans Pacher, Wien M4/97 Friedrich Orth, Wien M4/98 Franz Petzl, Wien M4/99 Franke & Sohn, Heidenreichenstein M4/100 Rudolf Menschiga, Wien M4/101 Dominik Sch?nbaumsfelds & Sohn, Wien M4/102 Wilhelm Prym, Wien M4/103 Rudolf Schanes, Wien M4/104 Philipp Turka, Wien M4/105 Argentorwerk Rust Hetzel, Wien M4/106 Maria Schenkl, Wien M4/107 Frank & Reif Stuttgart M4/108 Adalbert Kanngieser, Wien M4/109 Rudolf & Karl Kraus, Solingen M4/110 Josef Felix & S?hne, Gablonz M4/111 (unknown as yet) M4/112 (unknown as yet) M4/113 (unknown as yet) M4/114 Otto Honsel, Werdohl M4/115 Klein & Quenzer, Idar-Oberstein M4/116 CamiIl Bergmann & Co., Gablonz M4/117 W. Aurich, Leipe M4/118 Werner Redo Saarlautern (reissued) M4/119 Eugen Schmiedh?usler, Pforzheim M4/120 Karl Hensler, Pforzheim M4/121 (unknown as yet)

Rob, I am well jealous mate that is one nice buckle, if you ever let it go you know who to ask Quite an rarity also in that by 1940 steel buckles were introduced and you do not see many Alu buckles made after 1939, so probably one of some of the last Alu buckles to be made, very good find mate

Hey guys, the name of this maker is in fact Gustav Hermann Osang and not Heinrich, the person that told me his middle name got it wrong, thats why I love these forums, you never stop learning

Hi Joe, I dont think it is in any books

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Hi all, yet another addition to the Heer collective. Not a brilliant buckle but again important for me. Aluminium buckle by Osang, but the buckle itself is maker marked. You see quite a few Osang buckles for sale, especially steel ones but these maker marked alu ones are not so often seen, now another like this but with a tab would be really nice have a good weekend all you

First time I have ever seen a catch like this Rob, I dont think they have one in the Angolia or Nash book do they?

Hey just thought, I used to own a HJ buckle marked RZM 36 but sold it to Chad Williams for his HJ collection (along with quite a few others)

Rob, Weitzes has two for sale, not sure of the price