Jaybo

Excellent!

13 minutes ago, paul wood said:

As the former.

Paul

Thanks Paul. I thought as much. I have a chance to purchase one but it is impressed ‘Grenadier Guards’. Your thoughts?

Should a British Waterloo Medal awarded to a member of the 1st Foot Guards be engraved as such or should it be labeled as to the Grenadier Guards? Thanks in advance.

Mes amis,

Should a Waterloo Medal awarded to the 1st Foot Guards be labeled as such or should it read to the 'Grenadier Guards'? Thanks and all the best.

Thank you Augustin1813.

Thank you!

What do you mean by the "design of the core'? Also, I was led to believe on this forum that a real 1813 EK 2 has an oak sprig whose stem is straighter than later issues and leaves more like cabbage leaves. The ebay piece looks to me (albeit an untrained eye) to have those characteristics. But I trust your opinion which is why it is so good to be a member of the GMIC. Thanks.

Thank you for your expertise. Based on the final sale price I assumed it was. I want to acquire a real 1813 EK 2 but will only do so through a reputable dealer ( like Detlev N.). If you would be willing to send me a PM as to how you came to your opinion I would appreciate it. Thanks.

It went for just under $1,400 last week. I would enjoy hearing opinions on its 'authenticity'. I certainly wasn't going to gamble on it though that price was indeed probably too good to be true.

Thanks. Yes, it is still for auction. It looks authentic to me but I thought the experience here could weigh in with their thoughts. There are a lot of 'shavers' out there I have learned.

I saw this item Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse 1813 EK2 Preußen FW Friedrich Wilhelm lll mit Band

for sale on ebay. The question is obvious; is it authentic or a fake. The seller responded to my inquiries by 'guarantying' it is genuine. However, he doesn't allow returns.....hmmmm. What say you experten on the GMIC? 

Although it appears genuine to my untrained eye, I recall in a previous 1813 EK thread that the person had only ever seen one genuine 1813 EK for sale on ebay. Caveat emptor?

Very cool if authentic. It looks a little like the 'Dying Eagle' monument at Waterloo. Perhaps it is covered in the Moreau book (which I do not own, alas) on the veterans association medals of post-Napoleonic France.

I don't have any images of this war but it does make me think of a postulation that I have had for years. What if at Tilsit, Napoleon would have offered Alexander and Austria unfettered 'access' to the Balkans & Constantinople, to divide as they saw fit (minus Greece perhaps)? As Bismarck would later say, "the Balkans aren't worth the bones of one Pomeranian grenadier!" That would of really taken up Austria & Russia's efforts. It would have also peeved the British.

I really miss Rick Research. RIP.

Gentlemen,

Can anyone help me with this issue: how did this minor Saxon principality issue a 'Waterloo' Medal? I realize that this tiny state had an infantry regiment in the Confederation of the Rhine under Napoleon (4th Rheinbund) that serve in the XI Corps (along the Northern German coast) during the Russian Campaign (per Nafziger). However, I cannot find any order of battle listing a Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg contingent in the Waterloo campaign. What gives?

On 8/10/2014 at 12:13, saschaw said:

 

Forget about the EK2 and St. George cross... is he wearing an Austrian bravery medal in the third place... ?

 

 

I have literally never seen one of these in wear... probably our Austria collerctors would love to see that picture posted in their forum...

 

Incredible photo. I have never seen a photo of a Napoleonic veteran with that many different decorations. Outstanding.

Thank you Augustin. 

Thanks Augustin. Do we know how many were issued in 1863?

Merci beaucoup Augustin. Was there a difference between medals issued to officers and other ranks? Thanks.

Does anyone have the history and details of this particular Prussian medal issued in 1863 to the survivors of the Napoleonic Wars? Thanks.

39 minutes ago, paul wood said:

I have only seen very poor copies that would not  fool a delirium tremens affected blind man. however who knows what the future holds

Paul 

 

 

Thanks Paul. Since the cost of buying an original is beyond my means, I was interested to see if good quality copies of the 1807 Saint George's Cross were being made. My Napoleonic collection is comprised of original pieces except for 2 medals (1813 EK 1st Class and the Novodel Preussichs-Eylau Cross as I mentioned above.

Hi Nick,

Are they making fakes of the original Saint George's Cross of 1807? If so, can one buy them as a copy and not get ripped off? I realize that this is a stupid question......Thanks.

Very cool.

Very nice. This thread is my favorite on the site.

Thanks Nick. I assume that the faking is largely done in Russia, correct? Are the fakes cast copies or are the original dies still out there? It is a fascinating though depressing black market in action out there.