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    Chip

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    1. Andy,

      Where was this Hill 1114 located? Ah, OK I found this report from the 12.Isonzo battle.

      "Der linke Flügel der Gruppe Stein greift nach Überrennung der vordersten Talstellung südwestlich Tolmein zusammen mit der Gruppe Berrer die feindliche Hauptstellung auf dem Kolovrat-Rücken an. Stürmende Infanterie klettert von der 160 m hohen Talsohle im feindlichen Feuer die steilen Hänge bis über 1000 m empor. Die Gipfel des Kolovrat bilden in dem stark befestigten Stellungsknoten bei Höhe 1114 den Schlüsselpunkt dieses ganzen Systems. Bereits am Nachmittag kann der Sturm gegen Punkt 1114 und das benachbarte Massiv des Haefnik angesetzt werden. Weiter südlich bricht die Stellung des Jeza-Blockes im Angriff der Gruppe Berrer zusammen. Unablässig drückt der Südflügel der Armee (Gruppe Scotti) über den Hrad Vrh gegen die Kette des Globocak vor. Eiserne Meißel hat General v. Below angesetzt gegen die Felsblöcke der Julischen Alpen. Teutonenkräfte bohren und schlagen, Löcher werden zu klaffenden Lücken. Wie eine eherne Maschine arbeitet die Armee an den Granitwällen der Berge, frißt sich tief hinein durch Hindernis und Beton. Sie arbeitet genau nach Überlegung und Plan."
       

    2. Chris,

      Not the wrong ones at all. The Leibers had two gray uniforms prior to the war, One, the "Friedensgarniture" had the Litzen on collar and cuffs. The second, the "Kriegsgarniture" had no Litzen. This one appears to be a hybrid of the two, circa early 1915 to early 1916. It has the Kriegsgarniture cuffs with the simplified shoulder straps (no piping, no tongue) and the shortened collar Litzen. There were lots of uniform changes in throughout 1915 and early 1916, so I'm not surprised to see this mish-mash. As we have seen with the Bavarian (and I am sure with the other contingents) the shortages caused everything to be used. New items were added to uniforms when they came available. So, you would have an older stock tunic like this one getting the upgraded insignia when it was issued.

      Chip

    3. Andy,

      #1- I'm pretty sure that is an Abzeichentuch collar (look at the smooth surface as compared to the body of the tunic.

      #2 - I know the Bavarians used the crown buttons on the Bluse, but that button is not a M15 button, but is rather a white metal example as would have been worn on the previous model Waffenröcke. I'm attaching a picture of a comparison of the two. These are the smaller, shoulder strap, hip pocket size buttons. The M15 has a larger crown that covers the button side to side, is painted feldgrau and has no raised rim. The M07 button is the opposite, that is, with smaller crown, with rim and in this case, most likely in white metal (pioneers). It's not regulation, but it is what it is.

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    4. Chris,

      It could be a three, but that doesn't make sense with this state cockade. If I saw the cockade by itself, I would say it was Baden, but that doesn't appear to be correct either. The cockade looks like an officer or Portepee NCO type, yet this fellow is not even a Gefreiter. If the strap truly only has the number "3", then the only other possibility I can think of is that he is Bavarian. But then, how to explain the crown shoulder button? Lots of questions with this one.

    5. Just received this Militärpaß. It is seemingly a run-of-the-mill infantry example, but when you look a little closer, it becomes very interesting. Musketier Alois Frick, born 1895, entered the service in January of 1917, five months from his 22 birthday. He's in the Ersatz Batallion of K.W.Infanterie Rgt.Nr.124.  In September of 1917 he is sent to the 6,Komp.I.R.124 in the field. He serves the rest of the war with this unit. One interesting entry mentions his being sent to a Sturmabteilung for a couple of weeks (advanced training?). An otherwise pretty bland pass, which when offered, did not even show the Sturmabteilung passage (it was under an added sheet of his battle record). The pass sold for below the normal price of a Militärpaß. Alois was mustered out of the service in December of 1918 and two months later his service was recorded in his book (20.02.19). It was signed then by a newly promoted captain (21.12.18), who had some history with the regiment. Recognize the signature? I guess I was the only one bidding who did. 

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    6. Eric,

      I'm just speculating here, but if you have one and a half of a man's tags, I would assume he survived the war. I say that because if one half of the M16 tag stayed with the body and one half was collected by the unit, then there shouldn't be any left. I normally assume that half tags in good, non-dug condition were just broken in half and separated. This old zinc gets really brittle and the perforations are a weak area.

      Chip

       

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