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Hello Ok since we have begun i will start from the begininng with more info
information all comes from Book By Boris Prister Medals of Independant State of Croatia
odlikovanje nezavisne drzave Hrvatske drzave hrvatske
Ok slight correction here
9 were awarded to Croats
Marijan Banovac awarded 2.6.1942
Mijo Babic awarded on death 3.7.1942
Juro Francetic awarded on death 27.3.1943
Juraj Boban awarded 16.11.1943
Krunoslav Dragutin awarded on death 11. 1944
Cvitan Galic awarded death 25.4.1944
Eduard pl Bunic Bona awarded on death 7.4.1945
the final 2 were awarded the infamous 369 th Devils Brigade
who battled in the Red October Factory in Stalingrad
and to the Defenders of Kladnja
And in question to Large Silver Medals
744 were awarded to Croats
Small Silver Pavelic 9026
Bronze Pavelic 16102
Numbers awarded to Germans not known but definetly not a high number were awarded
Oh and new light has been shed on the 1st Class Trefoil with Wreath 1 awarded to Pavelic
and aparently 2 possibly 4 awrded to Germans in total 5
Ok and Now a complete List of all Awards just in case I forgot
1. Iron Trefoil 1st class with wreaths
2. Iron Trefoil 1st class
3. Grand order of King Zvonimir with Sash and wreaths
4. Grand order of King Zvonimir with Sash and Swords
5. Grand order of King Zvonimir with Sash
6. Gold Pavelic Medal
7. Order of Merit Grand Cross Sash Badge with Star
8. Iron Trefoil 2nd Class with wreaths
9. Iron Trefoil 2nd Class
10. Order of King Zvonimr 1st Class with Star and wreaths
11. Order of King Zvonimir 1st Class with Star and swords
12 Order of King Zvonimir 1st Class with Star
13. Order of Merit 1st Class with Star
14. Iron trefoil 3rd class with wreaths
15. Iron trefoil 3rd class
16. Order of King Zvonimir 1st class with wreaths
17. Order of King Zvonimir 1st class with swords
18 Order of King Zvonimir 1st class
19. Large Silver Pavelic Medal
20. Order of Merit 1st Class
21. Iron Trefoil 4th Class with wreaths
22.Iron Trefoil 4th Class
23. Order of King Zvonimir 2nd class with wreaths
24, Order of King Zvonimir 2nd class with swords
25. Order of King Zvonimir 2nd class
26. Small Pavelic Silver Medal
27. Order of Merit 2nd Class
28. Order of King Zvonimir 3rd class with wreaths
29. Order of King Zvonimir 3rd class with swords
30. Order of King Zvonimir 3rd class
31. Bronze Pavelic Medal
32. Order of Merit 3rd class
33. Silver Zvonimir with wreath
34. Silver Zvonimir on war ribbon
35. Silver Zvonimir on civil ribbon
36. Bronze Zvonimir with wreath
37. Bronze Zvonimir on war ribbon
38. Bronze Zvonimir on civil ribbon
39. Iron Zvonimir with wreath
40. Iron Zvonimir on war ribbon
41. Iron Zvonimir on civil ribbon
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some Croatian badges
I only ask about the Legion Badges to see if they are real maybe one day you would like to part with it if its part of your collection .As i only collect Croatian Medals and Militaria of that period
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I don't know. This guy certainly got around though-- Slovakia and Croatia were ALLIES, not "Ostv?lker." This gets down to Order of Battle stuff--
I think all the Slovak units were on the Russian Front, while Croatian units remained in the former Yugoslavia?
Perhaps this guy had Slavic language skills and got shuffled around as German cadre/liaison.
The Croatian Airforce Legion:
This Luftwaffe unit of Croatian volunteers was formed on June 2, 1941, and had a fighter and a bomber squadron. The fighter squadron was designated ?15.(Kroatische)/JG 52?, and served on the Eastern Front with great success from October 6, 1941 - July, 1944. The bomber squadrom was titled ?15.(Kroatische)/KG 53?, and served on the Eastern Front from October 25, 1941 - December of 1942.
Decorations received by the Legion were as follows:
Fighter Squadron:
- - Lt.-Colonel Mato CULINOVIC, Iron Cross 1st and Iron Cross 2nd Class;
- - Lt. Cvitan GALIC, Iron Cross 1st and Iron Cross 2nd Class;
- - Sergeant Veca MILKOVIC, Iron Cross 1st and Iron Cross 2nd Class;
- - Sergeant Tomislav KAUZLARIC, Iron Cross 1st and Iron Cross 2nd Class;
- - 40 other members of the Fighter Squadron received the Iron Cross 2nd Class.
Bomber Squadron:
- - 150 members of the Bomber Squadron received the Iron Cross 1st and/or 2nd Class.
Croatian Navy Legion
This Kriegsmarine unit of Croatian volunteers was formed in July, 1941, and served in the Black Sea until October, 1943.
A total of 343 men served in this unit, performing security, minesweeping and small vessel combat missions. Frigate Captain Andro VRKLJAN (the Legion?s first commander) was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class. 50 other members of the Legion were decorated with the Iron Cross 2nd Class.
With the surrender of Italy in 1943, the Italian veto on a Croatian Navy in the Adriatic Sea became null and void, so the Croatian sailors were returned to Croatia for further service. Croatian Naval Legion Badge was worn by members of the Legion while on the Eastern Front. The seamen, like their pilots counterparts, were allowed to continue wearing these badges upon the disbandment of their legions and assignment to Croatian military units.
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Sure looks like "recycled" Saxon Order of Albert Ribbon being utilized there...
Frugality prevails yet again!
The Award was for 6 months military Service
And to give you all some info Croats did fight on the Eastern front
1.1.: The 369th Reinforced (Croat) Infantry Regiment:
This Wehrmacht (Heer) unit of Croatian volunteers was raised in July, 1941, for combat on the Eastern Front. This was an infantry regiment with 3 infantry battalions and its own artillery attached (therefore ?reinforced?). From October 9, 1941, the regiment was attached to the 100th Jaeger Division, and fought some major engagements at Harkov, Kalatch and Selivanov. The Croatians proved to be reliable and brave soldiers, and were held in high regard by both the German command and their German comrades in arms. On September 29, 1942, the Regiment entered Stalingrad, where they were destroyed after a long and heroic struggle (a few survivors surrendered to the Red Army on February 2, 1943). Approximately 6,300 Croatian soldiers served in this unit through its ill-fated existence. Many were awarded various Croatian decorations, and a high number received German decorations. This is an incomplete list:
Iron Cross 1st Class:
- - Colonel Viktor Vitez PAVICIC
- Staff Sergeant Dragutin PODOBNIK, recieved the Iron Cross 2nd Class Staff Sergeant PODOBNIK was further decorated on October 16, 1942 with the Iron Cross 1st Class by General Sanne (at Stalingrad). The award was recieved for an action on September 30, 1942, where Podobnik and 18 of his men infiltrated a fortified Soviet position in the ?Red October? factory, destroyed the defenders(even though the Russians outnumbered them), and handed over the occupied building to the 54th German Regiment (that had been unsuccessfully attacking this position for several hours). Podobnik and his men also captured 3 enemy artillery pieces, 2 mortars, 1 ?Maksim? machine-gun, and a large number of rifles, pistols, grenades and automatic weapons. All of this with only 3 lightly wounded men. Sergeant Podobnik would, unfortunately, not return from Stalingrad (his actual fate is unknown).
Iron Cross 2nd Class:
- - Lt. 1st Class BAKAREC received the German Iron Cross 2nd Class in October of 1941, while commanding the 11th (Bicycle) Company of the Regiment, attached to the Vorausabteilung of the 100th Jaeger Division.
- - Sergeant Ivan GRBESA was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class during the course of the battle for Stalingrad.
- - Captain Geza MAJBERGER, commander of the 1st Battalion, received the Iron Cross 2nd Class for leadership during the battles around Manojlin, summer of 1942. He was mortally wounded on July 30, 1942.
- - Lt. Josip ZAMBATA was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class in September, 1942.
- - Sergeant Dzafer BABOVIC,September, 1942.
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Just recently won this ribbon bar. I seem to remember that #4 is something Croatian, but I can't remember what exactly. #3 eludes me entirely.
Does anyone recognize either of these decorations?
Thanks,
--Chris
3 Is the Order of King Zvonimir Civil Division these were and have been know to be awarded to Germans
4.Is the minature Comemorative war minature issued after 6 months of service in Regular army ,created in year
1943
Although not sure of originality but it is quite possible that it might be real they are possible to find as i just picked up a First Class Zvonimir with Star that was awarded to a German General ,as was common with the Large Silver Pavelic , inc the Iron trefoil 1st class the one awarded to GERMANs had a distinctive Light blue U For Croatians it was a dark blue same applied for all other classes in this award
might post a pic later of approx 20 minature variations if I get time
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Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone out there can tell me the order of precedence for the folwing croatian awards:
Order of the Iron Trefoil
Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir
Bravery Medals
Its hard to find any good info on the precedence of these awards. If anyone can help, I sure would appreciate it.
Thanks and God Bless!!!!
Greg
The order starts as follows
The Order of the Iron Trefoil with Oak Leaves 1st Class 1 Issued highest award
1 Class Iron Trefoil 5 awarded
2nd Class Iron Trefoil with Oak leaves
2nd Class Iron Trefoil
3rd Class Iron Trefoil with Oak leaves
3rd Class Iron Trefoil
4th Class Iron trefoil with Oak Leaves
4th Class Iron Trefoil
Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir
Grand cross of the Order of King Zvonimir with oak leaves
then came First Class to Fourth Class with and Without Oak leaves
Civil Award was without swords - Military Award with Swords
Civil award much rarer
Then Came the Silver ,Bronze and Metal Zvonimirs of diffrent variations
Then Followed by Gold Pavelic Medal approx 6 awarded One Located In Zagreb Museum whereabouts of other ?
solid silver plated gold
Then Large Silver Pavelic Medal solid silver 800/1000 silver
Then Small Silver Pavelic solid silver 800/1000 silver with hallmarks versions made without halmarks , as well Silver became rare later versions were plated with silver not very well made
Bronze Small Pavelic Medal and also Later period metal Pavelic MEDAL
wound medals
There were also medals for Order Of Merit in a distinct 2 tone red enamel and diffrent awrd type one for Christians one For Muslims not
That should help you
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Cant comment 100% on the axe in Coratian history, but in Hungary this type of axe head (small on a stick) is typical of the Hungarian peasants axe - good for cutting up small things and good for bashing in the head of the Turk invaders as well in the 16th Centutry... this small axe image exists still today in commemorative pieces. I have most recently seen one as an award for miners from the Hungarian Peoples Republic (1949-1989) - just some background...
Birth - Slavko Kvaternik (1878 - June 7, 1947) Sentenced to Death
He was awarded the 1st Class Cross of the Order of the Iron Trefoil during his service to the NDH. This award gave him the title of vitez (knight), which is sometimes included in his name.
During World War I, Kvaternik served as an adjutant of field marshal Svetozar Boroević and was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class.
Axe has no real Croatian signifigance although it may be due to long time influence under Austro Hungarian Empire
Birth Place - Austria Hungary
This should help your question
Right hand side above right pocket unofficial NDH airforce insignia usualy for caps
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some Croatian badges
Are those croatian wings part of your collection or a photo from else where.
I am quite aware it is one of the most copied Croatian badges if they are in your collection
do you have closer pics
already know an originals value $550 I have something much more rarere than that a 1943-1945 gliders badge with blue enamels small piece but beautifully made by BRACA KNAUS
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If it is the Solid Silver version it should have 2 hallmarks on the rim of the medal
one with symbol BK makers mark and a Duck which is the hall mark symbol of the period
Value $160US one of the cheapest medals , considering how rare some of their medals are
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n Fieldmarshal Slavko Kvarternik
in Southern European & Balkan States
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If i had that kind of Money i would think about it but i dont think I am happy with Croatia highest award My First Class Mint condition Iron trefoil over an axe any day!
any more Questions on Croatian items Id be more than happy to help