NavyFCO

Here are the Chinese documents for the medals. There are two of them, both blank...

Next, a close up of the 1990 dated photo that I posted in the previous thread. A nice shot of his Chinese medal 35 years later...

I might as well just scan the entire group and put it in the groups section, but here's a few more bits from the Tolkachev group (photo already posted in the Guards Badge thread...)

First, a photo from the late 50s of him wearing the Chinese medal.

Here's another from "out of the archives" in the groups I used to own. This scan was made when I didn't believe in big scans...

And the reverse... I have some documents I can post if interested...

These are some that I've had in my collection. I didn't know until now that there were actual different variations of them!

Dave

I have never seen... or for that matter... even heard of this style of medal bar! Are these ultra rare or have I just been unlucky not to have seen these?

They aren't all THAT rare, but you do have to look for them. I think in 14 years of collecting Soviet awards, I've seen maybe a dozen groups with this type of bar.

What's really neat about this bar though is the Polish medal with the custom mount. Never seen that before! Sweeeeeet!!!

Dave

Here's a neat photo I just ran across. Soviet, enjoy!

This hero is Staradubuev, Georgi Stepanovich.

Dave

Here's another one from my collection (well, just got shipped off, but it was in my collection for a long time...) for a general while on active duty...

Dave

And finally, the last page. At least the newer one has fancier handwriting.

Here's the inside of the first page. Rick R will be the first to point out the different serial number series.

I just got in my first 1990s General Officer ID booklet today. I was shocked by the poor quality of it. It's not BAD (I'd bet the ones to generals in some Eastern Block countries were worse) but it just ain't like the old school ones.

Here are some scans of the new one (top) compared to an old-timer (bottom).

Enjoy!

Dave

Here are two Red Banners to the same recipient. Why did he convert both to screwback, then unconvert them? Hopefully research will tell us!

Dave

One last photo (I have to resist the temptation to scan all of them!)

Here he is in the middle of the photo at an awards ceremony in Germany, dated 1947... good chance he's wearing the same Guards badge as in the first scan...

Dave

Here's Colonel Tolkachev in Vienna in 1946, presumably wearing the same Guards badge...

The reverse of the photo. I almost tear up every time I read this and think about it. Here he is, a "war hero" and proud grandfather...

Now here's the photo of the original owner!

This fellow was Lt Colonel Tolkachev. I love this photo of him, dated 1990. This is one of those groups that I'll go to the grave with.

Dave

Now why did I say to note that?

Take a look at this photo. Note the same verdigris...

This doesn't really apply to this thread, but in an effort to break the spiral of debating the finer points of Guards colors, here's a neat badge from my collection.

Note the green verdigris down on the bottom of the badge...

I assume the items of greatest interest to Dave are those two small things sitting below his naked Garter sash?

Yeah, the ones that are worth 10x everything else in the case combined?

Are those copies? Or are those his real ones? If the family still has those... WOW.

Dave

Here is an interesting modification to an Order of the Patriotic War 2cl, with a classic looking German pin and catch. Maybe a repair job while in Germany after the war.

That is tres cool! I remember being outbid on that one.. .

Dave

Try looking for "The Beaverbrook Foundation", which administers his estate and many charities, and see what info they have.

Thanks Peter!

For all:

I've gotten in touch with the RMC museum and RAF Herndon and both have been extremely helpful to me in my search. Thanks for all the help thus far!

Dave

Wonder about Beaverbrook tho'. Are you talking about Lord Beaverbrook the paper magnate and wartime Minister for Aircraft Production?

I'm guessing that sounds like it could be the right guy! According to my search, his initials were W. M. and the "W" when transliterated would normally end up as a "V", but in this case it may well have ended up as a "U". Now that I know that's him, I wonder where his stuff went....

Dave

Dave, as you don?t show the reverse of the Glory on your website and as there is no S/N-entry in the orders book, i wonder, is it numbered at all? Nice piece, btw

Gerd:

Thanks for the compliments! I could try to get a pic of the reverse, but I don't want to try to take it off the pad it is mounted on... I'm afraid I'll never get it back on right! It is numbered on the reverse - the next time I pull it down I'll get the number for you.

Tonight I just returned a phone call from a widow of another Glory 3rd recipient this evening who is taking photos of his medal for me. She told me that such and such was "in a little box." I asked her: Can you PLEASE get me a photo of the box??? She was quite surprised I'd want a photo of the box. After all, who wants that, anyway???

Dave

Dave,

Are you sure it's D Tovey ? Because theres the famous Admiral Tovey, a Jack I think that springs to mind.

I'm certain that's it. Thanks! Transliterated into Russian, "Jack" would be "Djak", which when going from Cyrillic back into English would end up as an initial "D" vice "J". Any clue where Jack Tovey's medals might be???

Dave