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    rocketscientist

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    1. Since we are talking of fake Polars since a while, here is a couple of "true fake" for discussion.

      They are, in my opinion, two examples of the same batch, with different treatments to simulate aging.

      The first one has a strong patina, the second one has none.

      No story, they are just fakes: there are a lot of wrong details both on the obverse and reverse. But, again, just look at the serifs on the "K"!

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-5691-0-20586900-1380666024.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-5691-0-74719200-1380666041.jpg

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-5691-0-29187600-1380666252.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-5691-0-59223700-1380666278.jpg

    2. Nick, you flooded me with al this polars! The first one is very interesting (post 122 onwards): a lot of commonalities with mine, including the puzzling curling of the K upper arm.

      Also the "D" looks the same. I have to understand that these features are mainly in "pimple sickle" (T1.2) variations of this medal.

      Unfortunately (?) it still has most of the gilding on both sides, therefore it's hard to scan since there are too many reflections. But I think I could see the differences from the samples you posted.

      When I was told that my medal had some detail of a T2, I thought to the type you posted in #126, with the flat ring struck with the medal. I was not considering the Voenkomat.

      What type/subtype would be a "grind off ring" medal?

      Thank you

      Sergio

      P.S. For everybody's education (and amusement), next time I will post a couple of "true fake" Polars from my personal collection... :cheeky:

    3. I'm still thinking to this not-fake Defense of the Polar Region discussed in the previous posts.

      I was trying to identify the difference between this one and other Polar T1, and I could find some. On the reverse, for instance, I noticed differences in the "K" and in the "D" as shown in the next picture (the medal under discussion is on the right).

      I have also noticed, after so many years, that this Polar has a peculiar characteristic in the handle of the sickle: a sort of half-sphere where the handle joins the blade. So, this medal is in fact a T1.2 which must be not very common considering that all my other Polars (7 off - assumed original) do not have this "pimple".

      However, the serif of the K and D (and maybe something else) give me the impression of being strange. There are also some small differences on the obverse, apparently.

      Maybe these characteristics are typical of the variation, I think it would be very interesting to know. Does anyone have more examples of T1.2 Polar Medals for a comparison?

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-97148900-1380481379.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-49440900-1380481422.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-88284400-1380481461.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-13713900-1380481507.jpg

    4. The general opinion is the suspension ring is wrong. I agree it is very unusual but I have seen other medals with the same characteristics and I would say this detail depends very much on the workmanship, rather than whatever faking process. Then some experts asked me 1200dpi scan of both avers and reverse and their conclusion was that this was "one of the most accurate copies ever seen" but with no further information.

      Since the opinion was coming from reputable experts, I took this statement for granted and I classified the medal as a fake.

      As an amateur collector, as I am, I haven't reached a sufficient level of experience to understand on my own what's wrong with this medal. That's why I propose it time to time, hoping to learn something useful.

    5. I have recently got this one, made of wool. I think it is very recent, but I cannot see any markings or writing to help identification. I hope you'll like it.

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-76239800-1380382511.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-86660800-1380382550.jpg

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-67921300-1380382576.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-5691-0-46116800-1380382601.jpg

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