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    kanjeng raden

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    1. I am afraid that does not explain the gobbledegook on the website.

      Kanjeng Pangeran Arya Adipati is the Javanese title for a high ranking Royal Prince, perhaps loosely equivalent to the Russian Grand Duke or Austrian Archduke. The Malaysian equivalent would be something like Tengku Besar. Such titles are reserved for Royalty, though once in a blue moon they may be conferred on a Royal son-in-law or brother-in-law, provided he held high office and was especially distinguished. They are simply not distributed willy nilly to rich businessmen.

      Dato, which is equivalent to a knighthood, is in nd entirely different and much more junior league. In no way can it be regarded as equivalent.

      Cheers,

      James

      Kanjeng Pengiran Arya Adipati & Kanjeng Raden Ayu Adipati were confered by Paku Buwono XIII on Prince Henry of Belgium & Kartika Sari Sukarno Putri in the last 'Jumenengan'. I can't even attempt to explain the 'gobbledegook' on that website. I did try to put in some comment in their guest book on the writer's idea of putting equivalents to Javanese titles but instead of getting a fair reply it was just conveniently erased.

      Rgds,

      Kanjeng Raden

    2. Hi James,

      The website www.rajasurakarta.com was written by some Malaysian recepients. They had Malaysianised the Javanese aristocratic titles to Malaysian equivalent of just 'Datos'. The known Javanese titles are like Kanjeng Radens or Kanjeng Pengirans, like the latest confered by Paku Buwono XIII on Prince Henry of Belgium, Kanjeng Pengiran Arya Adipati. And the recepients of these Javanese titles had to follow certain Javanese rituals and oath taking ceremony when the titles were confered on them.

      Rgds,

      Kanjeng Raden

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