Stijn David

Hello,

@ Ricky: i have checked => i am missing a part of the B-entry's + that is a part i can't give info on. Must check again, etc ....

@ Landsknechte: very nice ribbon bar, however indeed i think impossible to ID as to thin and a L?H is also not exactly a unique award.

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Hello,

Very nice thread + here is some info on the L?H

=> awarded the L?h on 28.08.1918 as a Oberleutnant der Reserve => while acting with the I Seeflieger-Abtl.

Cordial greetings + happy X-mass days

Hello,

And in this thread you can see award documents for this badge : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3523

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Hello,

And here we have the reverse, note the number: 1153

All these badges have a unique number and are researchable as the original award list is in existence. I am currently working on a book about these badges wich will probably be finished end 2008/beginning 2009.

The producer of these badges was the Frankfurt based Jeweller: J?rgum & Treffs

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Hello,

Here is a recent aquisition of wich i am very happy that i finally did find one. A original Silver C badge (Germa: Silbernes Leistunsgabzeichen f?r Motorlosen Flug).

This badge was instituted in 1931 and was awarded up towards the end of WWII approx. 2.000 times in its 14 years existence in this form. FInding a original one nowadays is a quite difficult task.

The badge is made out of silver and enemaled, the reverse has the typical button faster with its award number stamped.

This piece was won in 1939 and was worn by its recipient with pride, The owner was later in the war a Lw. glider pilot and did fly with DFS230, Go 242 and Me 321 glider planes. He also did fly the Vassieux mission against French partisans wand was heavely wounded in this mission.

He survived the war + i had the honour to aquire this rarity for my collection at the beginning of this month.

I belive it is a first for this (and many other forums) that such a badge is shown => enjoy

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Hello,

Very nice thread + thank you for showing all these wonderfull images.

I noticed that not that many portraitpictures are shown here with a glider pilots badge in wear => so ehar it is

This person was as we cans ee active also as a glider pilot who did fly the Cholm-ressuply mission

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Hello Don,

Thanks for sharing this wonderfull piece, and in excellent condition it seems. I am also confident that in the future we might be able to ID who's badge this was.

Wonderfull low number, the lowest one i have ever seen towards this date => congratulations on a excellent aquisition + treasure that badge as it is a very rare piece

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Hello Eddie,

Thank you for the link !!!

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Hello Joe,

Thank you for the comments, yes these badges are rare => the highest known number at this point is nr. 1.611.

I do not believe that much more where awarded iff we take the awardingrules into account. So a original (awarded) badge is a rare thing. And with awarded i do mean with a award number on the reverse. A article on these badges will be printed in one of the upcomming magazine's from the BDOS ( http://www.bdos.org ), so then every interested person will be able to learn about these

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Hello,

Yesterday i had once again the honour to speak with one of my glider friends who was atcive with the Lw. feldregiment 'Barenthin' in Tunesia.

He did say toward sme that the ENglisch opponents at the time arround oktobre/novembre/december where from the Hampshire Regiment. I am interested offocarse to elarn and know something of the englisch vieuw on the happenings during the Tunesian campaign and the German troops they faced.

Can anyone off you give me hints where to search after info on that regiment, etc ....

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Hello,

Thank you for showing this marvellous set francois, very nice and i am also intriged by the awarding of the Transporter clasp towards this person.

I also think that this person was a crewmember of some transport plane (could also have been a smaller one then a Ju 52) attached towards the JG 27.

The attaching of gliders towards certain units is a bit different, in the cases where this was done (for example KG 27) the gldiers where on loan for a short time and the returend towards their mother unit. It is also not quite same as the Gliders attached towards the Para's, etc ... as those where also exceptions and can be seen a temporarely matter.

I believe that this person was simply a JG 27 unitmember who was active in some kind of transportplane as attached towards that very unit.

Anyway, thank you once again

Hello,

And anotehr vieuw of a DFS 230 with chute

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Hello,

Excellent picture Prosper, thanks for sharing. And here is a very similar picture where a DFS 230 is comming in with the parachute. (note: not all DFS230 's did use a Chute, this practice was only later in the war tested and effectively used. By using a stop-chute the glider could fly in a shorter track and land + stop faster.)

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Hello,

@ Prosper:

He might have transferred to KG200 out of extreme boredom! As you say, he missed four missions. I look forward to seeing a discusson about KG200. Interestingly, the paratroopers who jumped and airlanded on the Vercors plateau under the command of Jungwirth were part of KG200. Did your man almost get to go on that mission?

Indeed, that seemed to be the fact, as cf. H.Lange (the actual brain after that part of German history) most volunteers where tired of being trained, trained, trained etc ... and not being used for action. I can very well imagine that it must have been demotivating that one is trained over and over again and never does seem real action anymore. Anotehr part that played a role was that quite a few of the volunteers where a hard core of combat veterans from the glider troops. These actually did see the evolution of the glider force from a pure assault weapon towards some kind of transport flying troop as waste of skills.

To name only a few missions he was involved in preparing but never put into real action:

* september/octobre 1941: he did lead a grouping of DFS230's into Russia unde rhis command. Quite a few of his men did fly ressuplymissions unde rhis command, he did not.

* 1942 : Russia - he was trained etc .... in action with the so called 'Bremsfalschirm' at Riga SPilve + was also forseen to help in the ressuply of the encirlced Stalingrad. They where even transported with the train, etc ... to fly that mission but that was aborted.

* 1943: Italy: Grann Sasso => correct, was attached towards the Grann Sasso assaultforce, but stayed back at Pisa airfield

* 1945: Germany => he wa samongst the very last existing glider unit (existed out of approx. 25 glide rpilots), quite a few of his companions did start to fly towards Breslau, Berlin, etc .... he managed once again not to fly into combat and survive dthe whole madness unharmed

And quite a bit more can be found on him, it is actualy a excellent research grouping as he himself did also write his military career down into detail.

However as history has shown us, quite a few of these glider pilots did still get their chance to get into battle. Rest assured my dear friend, a thread on Vassieux and its gliderconnection will be put on the net in the future

@ Stogie:

Also, a very nice BSW product and thanks for showing. Delicate piece for sure.

@ the rest: thanks for the comments

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Hi Prosper,

Indeed that badge is well known towards me

Yes, you are correct, iff he would have stayed he most probably would have participated in a rather har battle. The very interesting thing is that he did the whole war and never did participate in any glide rmissions, altough he was close in at least 4 occasions !!!!

And he was also in the last existing glider unit when he surrendered => May 1945 !!!! Quite the man and i must say i like this one very much

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Hello,

And the finally we have the matching set, the badge with nr. 890 and the matching award document.

Finding a matching set is a very rare opportunity.

Oberleutnant S. was trained in the war to fly:

* DFS230

* Go 242

* Me 321 (Gigant)

In the following thread you can also see the NSFK pilots badge as awarded and worn by this brave officer:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=23734

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Hello,

And here we have the award document as presented towards Oberleutnant S.

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Hello,

And the reverse of the badge, the badge itself was awarded on 9 April 1942 and has the number 890.

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Hello,

This set also belonged towards Oberleutnant S.

He was as said in the previous thread a pre-wartime glider pilot who did fly his SIlver C certificate badge. He was also one of the soldiers who was drafetr very early into the Luftwaffe to become one of the first trained Luftwaffe glider pilots.

His story is a very exciting one but is not the topic of this thread. I want to present towards you guys his large NSFK glider pilots badge with matching award document.

This superb set is the definite proof that both civil and Luftwaffe recipients did receive a numbered badge with flat pin. Up towards tehse days it is a popular believe amongst Luftwaffe collectors that the badges (large NSFK glider pilots badge) awarded towards Luftwaffe personel where without number and had a round needle.

This is the 3 Luftwaffe legacy where the complete set is recovered and ass in all previous cases the badge was awarded towards a military person and his badge was numbered.

Enjoy this rare example. The badge itself is in very good condition, only the enamel on the seagul's wings is damaged due to extensive wear.

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Hello,

ANd here is the reverse of this superb badge. This badge did belong towards Oberleutnant S.

The badge has also the patent mark: GES.GESCH. 22639

Did any of you gus have ever seen a award document, the case etc ... or similar pieces related towards these badges?

Also, feel free to show you example in this thread.

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Hello,

Here is a absolutely new addition towards my collection, a rare NSFK pilots badge.

This piece does belong towards the legacy of a Gliderpilot who was a very skilled glider pilot during the prewar years, then he was drafter into the newly former glider force + did survive the whole war and ended the war with rank of : Oberleutnant.

He did fly during teh waryears all glidertypes, namely : DFS230, Go 242 and also the monstrous: Me 321 (Gigant).

He was wounded in action, etc ....

And here is one of his badges, a superb Buntmetal NSFK pilots badge.

The front has a very nice worn appearance, the reverse is absolutely first class.

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Hi David,

I have absolutely no clue => such strange things can be encountered

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Hello,

I have the following:

Ketzner - Heinrich / Uffz. der Reserve / I.R. 162 / List nr. 23 / award date entry n the L?beck ROll : 25.11.1916

Lovely entry for sure + thanks for sharing.

Hello,

And here we see him pictured somwhere in 1943.

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Hello,

And here we have picture from him (sadly the picture has quite soe water damage/preserved in the cellar for over 50 years).

We do see our weared as a Fw. wearing his Lw. glider pilots bagde + his Civil C glider certificate (bullion version). Interesting to se eis that he is also wearing his Lw. Dagger 2 nd. model.

The picture does date from March 1942 - Goslar / his unit at that time was the 9./L.L.G.1

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