Stijn David

Hello,

Thank you both for the information on how he could have won the NSDAP and HJ awards, very interesting to say at least !!!

he was certainly a hardliner IMHO, as otherwise he would never have earned the NSDAP long service awards. Iff i only could manage now to find out who he was

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Hi Mike,

Thank you => well then this combo os more something for you

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Hello,

Here is one that does resides not far from me

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Hi Sal,

Unfortunatly i do not have the paperwork => the info does come out a Hermann Historica auction catalogue. I will check these and report back with what i managed to find for you.

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Hello,

Thank you David for the very usefull help, can anyone check iff a Hauptmann Schmidt was reported as either wounded, missing or killed in action iff any other info on this officer (seems he was the commander of a Pioneer Btl. 13) at some point.

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Thank you Gregory for the already very helpfull ifnormation, much appreciated.

Do you know iff in the named source books about the 26 "W?rttembergische" Reserve Division names off officers from these Pioneer Btl. are named?

I am looking after a Hauptmann Schmidt (he did hold this grade during the end of 1916)

Mayby loss listst or others?

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Hello,

Can anyone point me inti the direction of the where to find information on the following units (periode 1900 towards 1918) / all units are eitehr W?rttemberg or Prussian related (iff this is of importance ).

* Pioniere der 26. Reserve-Division

* Vermessungs-Abteilung (L)

* Landwehr-Pionier-Kompanie 1

Thanks in advance, hopefully there are not that much such units arround and you guys are able to provide me with some traces.

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Hello,

Hauptmann (last military rank during WW2) Walter Kulbe - holder of the Spanisch cross in Silver with Swords.

Former LC unit : 7. / F. 88

Will be back soon with a few more

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Very nice piece Jan, well it seems that the enamelwork has already had its effect (you told me last weekend that you where about to fall in love with these ).

Hopefully one on a nice bar will come my way soon

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Hello Rick,

Thank you for the answers (really fast also !!! )

They are not cased => can you shoot me a PM with what you would give for these please? I ask because they are offered towards me and i am seriously thinking on obtaining these lovely (OLD) pieces

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And here is the last one => thanks for the help

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Picture nr. 3

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Picture nr. 2

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Hello,

Can anyone help me to identify the following pieces?

1) What german country are they from?

2) What rank do these represent?

3) What time area are these to date to ?

4) What would be a reasonable price to obtain these lovely pieces ?

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Thank you for the answer Biro => is anyone of the imperial guys aware of reparations by producer B from products of A and that these where marked accordingly ?

I know from a writing from the company of Friedl?nder that from 130 returned awards (also including 2 medals who where actually not returned upon death of the recipient) that 18 pieces could not be restored and where melted and the material used again, the other remaining 112 pieces where restored ( = 86 %)

It is unclear iff the restored orders where from Friedl?nder but i can imagine that tehre where also products from previous producers amongst these 118.

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A real beauty Richard, congratulations on that one !!!

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ps: did you know that the content of one bottle of Champagne is precisely the volume of such a goblet

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Thank you Rick for the answer, much appreciated. It is fine to know the producer of this little baby.

Gebr. friedl?nder / Berlin

They took over the company off Friedeberg S?hne in April 1892 + started to produced (they where Hoflieferamt) the F?rstliche Hohenzollernsche Orden. They did so untill J.G. Zimmerer & Sohn (Sigmaringen) took over production off first the Bene Merenti - medal and then all F?rstliche orders and decorations in 1910.

The company of Friedl?nder will have produced these crosses etc ... in between these 18 years. Also nice to know is that quite a few old (returned from deceased persons) orders where restored and awarded again. That do makes me believe that fewer where produced then awarded.

I also noted that there is a large difference in the colour of the green enamel between the Friedl?nder products and the Zimmerer (WW1 products). The Friedl?nder's are much darker and les opaque.

Feel free to post your example of a III class cross in this thread.

Award numbers on this type of cross are :

1851 - 1869 ( reign F?rst Friedrich Wilhelm Constantin & Carl Anton togheter) : 216 awards

1869 - 1885 ( reign F?rst Carl Anton alone ) : 235 awards

1885 - 1905 ( reign F?rst Leopold ) : 394 awards

1905 - 1927 ( reign F?rst Wilhelm ) : 360 awards

1927 - 1965 ( reign F?rst Friedrich ) : 110 awards

So the presented cross was made in the period of reign from F?rst Leopold or Wilhelm, and more specifyed between 1892 and 1910.

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ps: is it a known practice for lets Friedl?nder to restore a awards from anotehr company and then place their own "Ritzmarke" on this ?, or is this totally not done?

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And here is image nr. 2 .

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Hello,

Here is a piece i received as a gift out of Germany, it is as you guys will see a so called :

Ehrenkreuz 3 e Klasse - F?rstliche Hausorden von Hohenzollern

The order is missing its center front disc but still has its reverse disc. Some previous owner did glue in the center (on one point that is a lucky thing as due to that reason teh center is still with the cross, on the other hand it gave me quite a cleaning job to remove the modern glue as it was a very sloppy job done, glue all over the cross, the arms, etc ... and the green enamel of the wreath.)

The cross is maker marked on the lowest arm with FR.

Does this stand for : Friedlander or is it Friedeberg ?

I do know both have produced these things (small quantity's) but it can help me to date this rather cross.

Due to this we can have a peek at how such a old and very delicate order was made, hollow center etc ...

I just love it + all comments are welcome

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Thank you for the info, can you point me out what a officer should be able to receive during his career? (assuming that he already was a officer when he was eligable to recieve such a DA)

Thanks in advance,

Hello,

Thank you Tom, much appreciated

Is the "Regular Army 3rd Class, 9 Year 1917-21" awarded to all ranks?, both officers and regulars soldiers?

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Hello Hendrik,

Thank you for the info, indeed quite a impressive listing.

Anyone have the lust to show these of ? certainly the periode between lets say 1890 and 1918 is from interest + this might become a nice and informative thread for sure

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Well since i normally like Zinky things with wings i am happy to learn something whenever possible over the older days (pre 1918) whenever possible, as we might never stop learning.

Can someone explain (and show) me the difference within the so called "Dienst Auszeichnungen" from arround 1900 from the state of W?rttemberg? Wich grades does exist, etc ... etc ...

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Hello Stijn

I am a little bit suspicious . Normally the date and the rank are typewritten or not ?

It comes alone

yours sincerely

Hello,

Nope, it looks perfectly legit for a LW. piece. IMHO. I have attached one i have directly from the (glider) veteran. Check out the date, etc ...

On my one there is no stamp, this happened so do not worry on that. I would have no problems with your document with the scans provided.

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Hello,

I do not see anything wrong with the shown document. IMHO this is from a LW. soldier, not Heer.

Did it come alone or where there also other documents along with this one?

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