Christian J

Great pictures. Where have you picked all these up?

Stefan - Post your(s). You know the one I'm talking about. :(

Is the case just an ordinary? Anything on the lid?

I've seen the most elaborate cases for patriotic jewellery from that time (I would say 10-20ties) and these are quite sought after.

Is the father still alive?

Would love to hear were he might have "picked" up this magnificent bar.

@ Sascha:

If it has been a pure Gold HHOX I could unsterstand the Wildcard's statement... but the HHOX is definately a silver gilt piece one... Is it marked (on the botton rim of the cross)? It looks like a Godet HHOX...

Ciao,

Claudio

A nice silver-gilted one sold hours ago for 614E.

:love:

That ?lberg cross is bea-uti-ful!

See if a moderator can move the thread to The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States. You might get some more response there.

Ek2

HHoX3

Lippe detmold War Merit Cross?

Hindenburg

Schlesien eagle

Long service

Long service

I think it was around $250-300.00

Ah, so it seems it has tripled in eighteen months.

Thanks for the price info Charles.

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Christian

Now for sale at an dealer. Did anyone get the ending price for the ebay-auction? I only saved the pictures.

Is the L?beck and longservices ribbons fullsized?

Can't think of any order (Saxon?) that could fit. Seems to have been on something similar to the St:Heini ribbon.

Let's illustrate the thread with the missing knopfloch.

Here is the pictures I received.

"this is the best Iron Cross grouping I have ever seen."

Wrong.

WAS.

138 years of careful preservation... pfffffffffffft.

No. Everything you see, except the promotion docs, were kept together. Somebody opened his big wallet for this group.

One might object to the fact of letting the dealer maximize his profit. But at least it's "almost" intact and hopefully in the hands of someone with an genuine interest in history.

One thing is certain, he won't get his money back in an foreseeable future.

You are right... this is the best Iron Cross grouping I have ever seen.

What is in that ball of lint, inside the box? Is this the round that wounded him?

I would guess so. Here you could see what the whole muntion, with paper-cartridge and bullet, looked like.

Well,I was also watching the auctions......and I'm sure nearly everybody who's collecting imperial medals! The group was really nice-did you win the most of the auctions? The price was far away from being realistic! The EK2,document and the two pieces of paper/cardboard for more than 18oo??? That are a thousand bucks for the cardbox and the letter? The seller did everything right to push the price-the heart of the grouping at last.......If it's yours now you've got something very special in your collection-just the amount of money was a bit much!

Micha

No, I didn't bid on it. Just thought we had to save this for posterity, as we won't see something like this in a long time.

I try to refrain from bidding on groupings that are being split up. It's a despicable action from the seller, to act on peoples will to keep something intact for future generations.

I've never seen such a well documented grouping before, almost to good to be true.

Shot by the new french armys breechloaded Chassepot.

Here you can find an little article on the Chassepot

And this were not all, as I haven't posted some minor commemoratives, documents and awards to other members of the family.

The grouping were completely split up by the greedy seller, most of it were kept together, but at such cost! The vile dealer sure did maximize his profit.

Sadly the seller wouldn't supply me with readable scans.

1. Portepee F?hnrich Berlin 9. Juni 1868

2. Second Lieutenant Berlin 9. M?rz 1869

3. Premier Lieutenant Stuttgart 21. September 1876

4. Hauptmann und Compagnie Chef Berlin 21. Februar 1884

Centenary

2 Schulterst?cke 64

bei Vionville 16. August 1870 getragen E. Koch

Geraucht Vionville ! 16. Aug. 1870

E. Koch, Leutnant 64. Inf. R.

I've never seen such a well documented grouping before, almost to good to be true.

Shot by the new french armys breechloaded Chassepot.

Chassepot Geschoss durch welches Leut. Koch am 16. August 1870 bei Vionville verwundet. Extrahiert in Berlin im Hause der Eltern am 9. September durch Dr. Sch?nborn.