Dolf

Medal for Defense of the Caucasus.

Dolf

And the Doc, dated 1962, issued to Ivan Petrovich Pochvin.

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The Medal for Defense of Kiev.

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And the Doc, dated 1944, issued to Nicolayev Peter Yakovlevich.

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The Medal for Defense of Moscow.

Funny, there are some red spots on the ribbon, I always thought it could be blood, althought of course it can also be ketchup...

Dolf

And the Doc, dated 1943, issued to Ivan Grigoryevich Chygai.

My favorite Doc

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The Medal for Defense of Stalingrad (my very 1st Soviet Medal!).

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And the Doc, dated 1943, issued to Comrade Grigoriy Piotrovich Shishko.

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The Medal for Defense of Sevastopol.

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And the Doc, dated 1943, issued to Sergeant 1st rank Maksim Ivanovich Iliyn.

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I know all reverses of these Medals are the same but I can't resist posting this one

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The Medal for Defense of Odessa.

Notice how worn the ribbon is! Probably the nicest of all Medals I have

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And the Doc, dated 1945, issued to Semyen Petrovich Dyachenco.

Dolf

Someone suggested it (Ed I believe), so here they are.

My Defense of Medals, each with the appropriate Doc.

I believe they are all of the Var 1.

Following the order they are shown on The Guide, so the first one is the Medal for Defense of Leningrad.

Dolf

paddywhack,

Outstanding!!!

I have to find that Erich Hatmann's bird!

So you can do all that, open and close the cockpit, put up and down the wheels, have the access to the engine open or close?!... Boy, that looks great!

Both the 109 and the P 51 come from the same manufacturer? A big difference on the price!

Thanks for posting these beauties!

Dolf

Dolf,

we don?t have to play this game here on gmic too. You can say, its CollectRussia

Gerd

Gerd,

Yeah, probably the influence of such practice for a few years... you know what I mean

Dolf

That's pretty much what mine looks like. Kinda. It's so damn small it's hard to say even under magnification.

Is it worth trying to set up my zoom lens to get this?

And if I do can I post images here? I'm a new member (probationary) and I haven't paid any money to be an associate yet. Do I have priveledges?

Eric,

I believe you can post pics up to 60Kb until you post a certain amount of posts (not sure how many, maybe a Moderator can help you with details), then you'll be able to posts pics up to 110Kb.

Dolf

Heres a pic of the Leningradski screw nut, I have discovered a new variation?

OoV,

For a decent view, can you please try to eliminate 99% of everything around the screwplate (crop it with Photoshop for example) in order to have a pic of the screwplate occupying most of the area of the final pic?

Thanks,

Dolf

Here is what I meant. But in my case as I copied your posted pic all I got is a screwnut of the same size of the one you posted, but if you do it yourself from the original photo maybe you might get a better result. Anyway this pic is unfortunatelly way too blurred to show it clearly

No pb, Dolf . My poor english, certainly...

Ch.

Funny, I was sure it was my fault instead...

Always a true Gentleman the dear Christphe

Dolf

No, no Dolf . I just say the Moscow mint!!!

Ch.

Ok, sorry, I guess I misunderstoood your previous post and thought you meant that both Mintmarks do exist

Dolf

Yes

Thanks.

Btw, there is another one of these for sale right now on the siter of that well known NJ dealer, ribbon missing, but for $5,500...

Dolf

Mondvor only talks about the Moscow mint. No reference to the Leningrad one. And all mintmarks posted here seem to be the moscow one...

Ch.

Christophe,

So you confirm there are different Mintmarks? Moscow AND Leningrad?

Would you by any chance have pics to post of samples with the Leningrad Mintmark?

Thanks,

Dolf

1- Material - I assume this is some low-end gold or silver gilt. I have not taken it to a local jeweler to test; not so sure I'd trust them. I assume it was made in whatever Bjork (Battushig says Bock ? but were they still in business that late??) of St. Petersburg and other late-Tsarist Russian jewelers used in making their stuff. While some (a very few, post-1917 ones?) were made in Mongolia, this seems to me to be a pre-revolutionary Russian-made piece. Remember, the thing was only awarded from 1913 until the collapse of feudalism in 1924.

2- Stones - Again, I am a historian not a gem specialist (to paraphrase Dr. McCoy). Looks like a real lapis lazuli in the centre (which it should be for this grade) and fake pearls around the edge. See close-up scan below.

Thanks a lot for the clarification Ed.

Whatever it is made of, a very nice A 13 (3rd Class, 4th Grade, right?). A beautiful piece indeed!

Dolf

I think the basic distinctions are:

1 - screwback

1.1 - nut at base of screwpost

1.2 - no nut at base of screwpost

2 - pinback

Is this right? Mintmarks??

So according to this, the difference between those posted by Paul and Darrell is that they would be 1.1, and those posted by Eric 1.2 instead.

Have to check the Mondvor site to confirm this and for possible differences on Mintmarks. If only it was not so slow to download and not only in Russian...

Thanks guys,

Dolf

Can you guys please enlight me about the difference(s) between these Medals posted above?

The only difference I see between those posted by Paul and Darrell, and the ones from Eric is that little "thing" (screw-nut?) at the base of the screws. Is that the difference?

Both mine are exactly like those from Paul or Darrell, btw.

Thanks,

Dolf