Inspector Krogh

Hirmiestellio,

I believe the reverse you are referring to is the "household service" medal of VEIII as King, rather than Emperor

(Even though he wasn't Emperor of much, or for very long). The ribbons are similar...the "King" medal's green center stripe is wider than this one. Here is the reverse of the medal in question.

18 hours ago, hirmiestelio said:

What is the ribbon like?

Here you go....

Hello All,

I am wondering if anyone can enlighten me about this medal....

What was it bestowed for?  Any idea how many were awarded?

Thank you for any assistance that can be rendered. ?

Best,

G.

Gentlemen,

I am grateful for your replies, and the information shared. Apparently, just one of those old curiosities that I believe that is a part of the fascination of collecting. Here are a couple of (marginally) better photos, if you save images.

Thank you again.

G.

Greetings,

I would appreciate any help in identifying this medal. I don't believe it is an "official" medal. The ribbon is missing.

The medal is in the Swedish 7th size (31mm). It is silver, and the numerals XV on the reverse are hand engraved. 

Any help offered is much appreciated.?

G.

Thank you for that much appreciated information Micke. Fint som snus.

January 1 1947 it is.

I had made the assumption previously that the change to the ribbon (as you explained) was done when the Swedes assumed "control" of the insignia of their order.

But, I had also assumed that the eagle replacement was an artistic interpretation of the "Vasa sheaves". 

Perhaps vases/Vasa is a translation issue? 

Thank you again for taking the time to reply! 

G.

Trying again!

Thanks

G.

Colleagues, 

Is it known when the distinctive insignia of the order was instituted?

Was it in 1920 when the commandery was set up, or in 1946 when they seperated from the Bailiwick of Brandenburg?

Thank you for any information.

Hello fellow medal enthusiasts,

I have seen examples of this medal with the marking "BRONZ" in different locations. Others appear to be without markings.

Some are impressed into the rim, near the 1 o'clock position; Others have it as part of the die pressing on the reverse of the medal, near the 7 o'clock position.

Attached are some photos obtained from the internet with these markings.

Is it known what the different locations and style of marking (or lack thereof) indicate regarding time frames of the minting, or the award of the medal?

Thank you in advance for your help.

G.

One can't help noticing that the swastika emblem on the Kriegsmarine series of war badges is remarkably small (with perhaps the exception of the 2nd Pattern E-Boat) . In some cases, (i.e. the Minesweeper or Destroyer badges) it is barely discernable. Compare this with most (there are of course exceptions) Army and Luftwaffe badges, and even when reduced to a very small size, on photos of Army/Luft badges the Swastika is significantly larger and forms a much more significant portion of the award.

Hitler is on record as complaining "I have a National Socialist Airforce, a reactionary Army and a Christian Navy" Now the navy would have had its share of nazi fanatics too, but one can't help wondering if those responsible for the design of the war badges perhaps subconsciously reflected the antipathy of a large section of naval high command (including those responsible for authorising the badges) towards their political masters. ? Certainly a number of suggested designs for the U-Boat badge with a much larger and more prominent swastika were rejected.

I never gave the size of the swastika much thought....i.e. assumed it was nothing more than a design/balance consideration. I have however, always been intrigued by the fact that the eagles on the badges of the Kriegsmarine are facing to their right. I am no expert in heraldry, but I believe that right facing attitude is termed "dexter" (as opposed to "sinister" ....to the left). I believe "dexter" points or leads more toward the "honorable" than the sinister.

The customs and rules of heraldry are complex, subtle, and like most things, regional variations exist. I certainly have no way of knowing how much consideration to such things was given while designing/approving these badges.....but my hunch is that those responsible were not ignorant of this custom, and it was done with purpose.

Bob,

Your stuff, call it what you wish;

Nonetheless, you have a superior collection and, I thank you for sharing it!

G.

All presented are pleasing, each in their own way...

I am a little worried however, about this talk of flogging.....

I can't help but remember the quote "....rum, sodomy, and the lash"!

G.

One that I have....

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Hi Mr. Anderson,

Did your packet come with the Memel medal as well?

Kind Regards,

Steve

Here you go Steve.

Please call me Greg!

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=105911

Here is another....

G.

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Maybe Marcus will share his packet with us? I'd love to see that added to the thread! Still the ONLY example of this seen........

Here is another....

G.