Humberto Corado

Hello all,

I am not sure if this document will fit here, if not, my excuses.

Louis Henry Joseph Bourbon, Duke and Prince of Cond?. (1756-1830) organized resistance to the armies of the new republic. he was father of the Duke of Enghien, who was executed on Napoleon's orders.

Letter signed " L.H.J. de Bourbon to a local magistrate, Mr. Booth trying to obtain a license necessary for a faithful servant, Brunet. Dated 20 august 1800

hello all,

I am looking for any online website dedicated to imperial Japanese army , campaings, leaders, battles, etc. I found some info on wkipedia and other websites but mostly fragmentary.

any help would be very apreciatted!

thanks in advance!

Hello All, according to Turkish Republic's Law of "War of Independance Madal" the elder son could carry his fathers madal after his death even he is a civilian. The elder grandson and so on...

During Ottoman Turkish period the law of medal also permitted the elder son to carry his fathers madals. For that reason I insist that this young officer is carying his late fathers medala proudly.

After the declaration of republic it was forbitten to carry Ottoman decorations.

Thank you Mr. Saral

1-This photo was shot in 22/?/12

2-The young officer is a leutenant of navy

3- The gallipoli star began to be given in 1915-16. 7 years before the a/m date. This young officer ought to be at the age of 14 or 15.

Therefore the young officer ought to be the successor of the medal.

In the wake of the establishment of the republic in 1923 the decoration of all Ottoman medals was relinquished. After the republic only medal of Independance was permitted to carry by the officers.

hello all,

were the Turkish officers allowed to wear their father awards?? or was just an idea of this navy Leutnant to pose with his father medals???

thanks in advance!

Here is a page that I used to post about Turkish Army. You can ask me what ever you wish.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewforum.php?f=80

Thank you for your interest on Turkish Army.

cheers.

Thank you very much for your kind offer Mr. Saral!

Hi Humberto,

Sorry for the late, but I read so many books in same time.

The thesis of Dirlewanger's death is : He dies from injuries from his Polish jailers. This is the official thesis in this book. For this the autor used some reports from National Archives in Germany and Poland.

This book is very very interresting. If you can read french I advise you to read it. We learn a lot about philosophy of Hunting and how the men of Dirlewanger used the tactical of hunting to catch and kill a lot of people.

Regards

Christophe

Thank you very much for remember my question and help me with!! and dont worry, later is better than never!

unfortunately I cant read french but I am sure that somewhere must be a book in english about him.

about the thesis of Dirlewanger's death, could you please tell me if in your book explain why he was prisioner of Polish jailers? and where they came from ?

thanks again!

No, it was founded in 1896 by Kaiser Wilhelm II in honor of his grandfather, Wilhelm I, on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of his coronation as German Kaiser in 1871. Werlich (Orders and Medals of All Nations, 1974) states that it was intended primarily for foreign heads of state, but could also be awarded to Germans in certain exceptional cases for outstanding services to society.

Thanks again Dave!!

Wilhelm-Orden

Here's another view of one: http://www.dhm.de/magazine/orden/abbs/002.htm

Dave,

Thank you very much for your help with the imperial awards short names !!! very much apreciated!!

About Wilhelm Orden, very impresive collar! was a unique award for Bismarck??

Here Bismarck full list of awards in "Ranklist speech":

SAOBr, plmE, plm KuW, WO, RAOGKEKrSzX, RAOGKEBr, HOH1aBr, HOH3X, EK1 70, RM, Joh, LD1, 66K, 64, AB1, BTBrmK, BHBr, BrHGK, HG1, HL1, HP1X, HgL, MK1b, OV1XKr, SRKBr, GSF1Br, EH1mK, WK1Br, BL1X, DD1, FE1, GE1, JC, JAn, LEK1, SM1, NL1, USt1Br, ?EK1, PCBr, PAPBr, PL1, PT1, RumSt1, RAdBr, SSer, SWA1, SE1, SGV, TNIBr, TO1Br, TunHO, ZSt1

Best regards

Daniel

Thank you so much Daniel for this list!! I am not familiar in what comes to imperial awards short names so could it be possible to "translate" this awards names?

Paul, thank you very much for sharing this great photos!! amazing!!

hello,

I am wondering which freikorps awards were allowed to use during third reich?

Thanks in advance!

Freikorps pay was a combination of secret and deniable government "black" funds and local "interested parties" raising their own local self defense forces.

Except for the navy units, which must have still been drawing OFFICIAL government pay!

Thank you Rick!

1) The regular army did not want to get involved in a civil war on the streets, so stayed in barracks polishing their boots and drawing pay.

2) The army was afraid to get involved in border disputes because the armistice was NOT a peace treaty, and action by regular troops against the Poles etc might have reopened the World War. So they stayed in barracks, polishing their boots and drawing pay.

Thanks Rick!, for the clarification, I got the picture about the army polishing their boots and drawing pay.

one more question, who pay the Freikorps? the government did it officially? or used irregulars ways to do it?

Thanks in advance!

The Friekorps were created in late 1918, they were made up of predominately WW1 veterans but many adventurers and students aligned to the right with nationalist outlook were also quick to join the ranks. There were many units created by various officers of varying ranks (but usually characters who were respected by their men) to assist the new republican government fight the communist elements of post war Germany. The Freikorps were violent freebooting private armies answerable to no one but their own commanders. The republican SDP government viewed them as a necessary evil and used them to put down the communist actions in Berlin, the Ruhr and Munich as well as fight in the disputed territory of Upper Silesia. Their lifespan was short and bloody with a few of the more moderate units being merged into the newly formed standing army (Riechswehr) in 1920. The near civil war that came about post WW1 is estimated to have claimed the lives of over 25,000 German citizens. Many of these were the victims of the bloody revenge partaken by Freikorps units in crushing the Bolshevik ?menace? The more radical elements still existed in an underground form well after 1921 and took part in the Putsch of 1923, this failed Putsch saw the end of the Freikorps for good. The Freikorps were essentially right wing soldiers, many of which were men who had fought long and hard in WW1 and could not settle back into civilian life. Although 1923 saw the end of the Freikorps many went on to form the SA and serve under the Nazi?s as well as join other veterans organisations such as Stahlhelm.

hello all,

I would like to know if any of you can help me with one question regarding the Freikorps?

I am wondering where was the regular German army during the freikorps operations? why they weren't used by the new republican government to fight the communist elements of post war Germany and in the case of the disputed territory of Upper Silesia?

thanks in advance!

kurhessian house order of the golden lion Grand Cross

Thanks David!

Well he received at least the CHLO1 shortly before the occupation by prussia in 1866, I believe in 1863 or so.

David

Thank you David for your reply. please excuse my ignorance but could you please tell me what decoration is the CHLO1?

no one??

Thanks for the excellent pics Humberto !

your welcome Grant,

I found this while searching around. Unfortunately it's not a list. It seems Napoleon willed his orders to his son.

First page Part II (1) Leaves orders to son

http://www.napoleonic-literature.com/Will.html

I give to my Son the collar of the Legion of Honour

I give to my Son the collar of the Golden Fleece

barry

nice find Barry!

thank you all for your colaboration! so we have so far:

-collar of the Legion of Honour

-collar of the Golden Fleece

-French Legion of honor medal

-order of the Iron Crown

-Danish Order of the Elephant

now a few questions:

Red, thats a very nice image, but it is possible to recognize any of the awards in the showcase??

Roeland, the star that Napoleon wore in the picture that you posted is the star of the legion of honor??

I've only seen it in Germany, but then I have only a handful of ANY photos from Austrian military personnel between the wars and NONE from Turkey.

thanks Rick!

So, of 20 naval officers, 7 made Admiral-level rank and 6 made full naval Captain or air force Colonel, while 2 died before WW2 and 1 fell afoul of the Nuremburg laws or other political suppresssion. Only 2 of the remaining officers failed to "be all that they COULD be," and the remaining 2 stubbornly defy identification, apparently being (like Butterbrodt/Tackenburg "filling in" here.

Excluding the two fatalities, the politically purged, and the 2 "nameless" who cannot be tracked, that means out of 15,

7:15 made Admiral, 6:15 made full Captain or Colonel--

wow!! what a fine research Rick! is impressive to see how many of them ended up as Admirals or superior officers!!

Yesssssss, but understand: that was NEVER correct and NEVER regulation.

Even worse was the quite stupid fashion of wearing an EMPTY ribbon for the star on a medal bar.

Here is then-Marine Oberzahlmeister August B?ning wearing the "empty ribbon" last on his medal bar, along with the proper pinback star. This was taken in 1924 in "Landmarine" Coastal Defense Battalion IV, Cuxhaven:

one last question please, the fashion of wearing an empty ribbon on a medal bar was used for the TWM star only ?? just used in Germany ? or also it was used by the Ottoman empire army?

thanks!

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close image, sorry about the shadows in the medal, are from my scan light

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Thanks !

Anyone got any pics of these ?

hello Grant,

please see the pictures of the 1949-1989 jubilee medal with its document