Humberto Corado

hello all,

I am still wondering about the complete list of Otto Von Bismarck Awards! I have been told so far the following awards:

Prussian Life Saving Medal

both versions of PLM, peace & war merit.

Prussia, Orden of the Black Eagle

Baden, House Orden of Fidelity

EKI & EKII

so I would like to know if any other member can help me to make a complete list of his awards, as complete as it can be.

Thanks in advance!

Your demand is my command ...

This freaky "Ober-Stabsarzt" wears indeed one on his breast AND one on the bar - well, why not?!

Thank you saschaw for posting this great phot too!!!! well..... this was common? to use the TWM star twice??

hello Dave,

thank you very much for this nice work. very interesting!

Yesssssss, but understand: that was NEVER correct and NEVER regulation.

Even worse was the quite stupid fashion of wearing an EMPTY ribbon for the star on a medal bar.

Here is then-Marine Oberzahlmeister August B?ning wearing the "empty ribbon" last on his medal bar, along with the proper pinback star. This was taken in 1924 in "Landmarine" Coastal Defense Battalion IV, Cuxhaven:

hello Rick,

thank you very much for show me this photo.

yes, I agree,I have always wondering why they would preffer to used the empty ribbon in the medal bar if they haved the chance to wear the TWM star itself!

I still would like to see a photo of a soldier wearing the TWM star attached to ribbon in a medal bar

hello hunyadi,

it is possible that you post an image of this memorial cross?

thanks in advance!

hunyadi,

I find the image of the memorial cross in http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk

I will post it here just for reference.

hello all,

there is any photografic evidence of a soldier wearing the TWM attached to ribbon in a medal bar????

OOOOPPPS - looking at it again, its the Frans Joseph Cross of 1916. However it was not awarded until November 28th, 1916 (a week after the death of FJ) as a 'posthumious' award (for the Emperor) Kaiser Karl was the first recipieint and recieved his on My 12, 1917. It was only awarded 25 times to Generals, Field Marshals, and high officers. The FJ cross is 56mm from arm to arm.

At first look I thought it was the memorial cross but that one has a 'star burst' between the arms of the cross - not the laurel wreath. Established by Karl on November 30th 1916 the FJ Memorial Cross came in oly two classes. The cross is a48mm from arm to arm EK style cross, with a right facing portrait of FJ in a center medalion. Around the medalion is 'IN MEMORIAM. 1848 - 1916' 5 'rays' of a star burst between each arm. The first class came in black oxodized iron (not rust!) while the second class came in gold plate (!) Unfortunatly, the source that has such information makes no mention of how many or who was awarded the memorial cross.

hello hunyadi,

it is possible that you post an image of this memorial cross?

thanks in advance!

Sorry Humberto, it took some time.

regards

josef

Thank you so much Josef!!! absolutely beautiful awards you have!!!!!

Recently started to collect medals of GDR.

I show only what with documents.

Nice documents ilja559! thanks for sharing!

any idea please????

Once again, you may find that the web is not the best place to do research. What you seek will likely be found only by using books, and books in Turkish and , maybe, German. A good research library remains the starting place for any serious research, and yes it is hard work; this is despite the fact that the "Wikipedia Generation" wants to find it all "on the web" and to expend little effort in doing so.

Thanks Ed for your advice, unfortunately I must try to make a lot of my research online due that there is not so much information localy, of course when I find a good book I buy it.

Maybe I need to search more books in online stores.

hello all,

I am looking for any online website dedicated to WWI Turkish army, campaings, leaders, battles, etc. I found some info on wkipedia and other websites but mostly fragmentary.

any help would be very apreciatted!

thanks in advance!

Greetings from Vienna. What about an Criemea-Type Medjidie Knight in original old shaped Box. The crimea is inside the box. the order shown is a superconvex french medjidie.

haynau

hello all,

I know that this is an old thread but what a beautiful Turkish awards!!!! I am realy astonished!!!!!

I would like to know if could be possible to see a close front image of this awards??? I took the liberty to copy the image of haynau medals to show about what I am talking about.

thanks in advance!!!

Hello Humberto,

I've been looking but haven't had any luck. I'll keep looking and if I find it I'll post it.

thanks,

barry

Thanks Barry, I have been looking online without luck too!

hello all,

I am wondering if any of you know the complete list of Emperor Napoleon awards?? I just had seen paintings of him with the French Legion of honor .

thanks in advance!

I didn't see one for another nationality. Spanish name are rare too and the price will be the same I think. I didn't see one to sell apart by a dealer at the moment.

Thanks Jacques!

I would say 100-150 for the "medalla de la campana" and "cruz blanca", 200 for the "cruz de guerra" which is more rare . It depends of the condition of the document and also the rank of the owner.

jacques

thank you Jaques for your help!

there are more chance to get one of this from a Spanish soldier than a German? by chance do you know dealers were I can find them?

thanks

Another 'Legion Condor' doc....

Hello all,

I know that is an old thread but I am wondering if you could give an idea of the current prices for Spanish documents for "medalla de la campa?a", "Cruz de guerra", "Cruz blanca del merito" and how easy or hard could be find them ??

thanks in advance

Hi Humberto,

i will keep my eyes open for a document for you. I am sure, with a little patience one of those will pop up somewhere.

all the best,

Gerd

Thank you very much Gerd, very kind of you!

Humberto,

you should check german ebay (www.ebay.de) for a SAM document.

Here is the Militaria-Section to save you some time searching:

http://sammeln.listings.ebay.de/Militaria_...ListingItemList

You should be able to find one there. If you need help with the purchase, just send me a pm.

all the best,

Gerd

hello Gerd,

Thank you very much for your help! unfortunately so far I didnt find any document at ebay.de, just medals but I still looking for it!

Humberto,

I am just a beginner when it comes to medals, but I think it is safe to say that these two medals are fairly common and not expensive at all. You can find them relatively easily on the German ebay. The documents would be a bit more difficult to come by, but not scarce by any means. Concerning price, once again, I would direct you to ebay, where you can track what these medals are selling for.

Chip

Thanks for your advice Chip! very apreciated!

Hi Humberto,

In the book I read, there is a small chapter about his dead. As soon as I finish the book I can write more information about Dirlewanger. Be patient

Regards

Christophe

Thanks Christophe! I will!

The scan of the backside wouldn't turn out correctly. When the fakes are mounted in the bar, they are very hard to tell without a very close look.

The impressions are lines if the pressing of the design, they can be seen and felt.

Kirk

Thanks Kirk!

High res photo for better detail.

2 fake and 1 real

Hello KGS,

thanks for showing us this fakes! they are of very low printed quality! any chance to see the reverse of the fake and original ones??? I have never seen one paper ribbon in real yet so I am wondering what do you mean with impressions showing on the back sides???

thanks!

Humberto,

You ask a very good question. With all the printed sheets of paper ribbons that started showing up on the forums last year no doubt someone is printing them again. I have never bothered to collect any paper ribbons out of their holders nor studied the printed shets before they were cut up so I do not really know. I am sure there is someone in the collecting community that knows and perhaps we will find out some day.

Regards,

Gordon

Thank you very much Gordon for your kind help!!!!!