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    NickLangley

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    1. Nick,

      Was that white traffic helmet for real or an April Fools?

      I can imagine the poor probationer being forced to wear it!

      I remember an old advertising poster at Hendon in the bar advertising the straw helmet. I thought it was just a name I never would have guessed it was actually made of the stuff.

      The Luton helmet looks like something a ploughman would have worn in Somerset. Incredible stuff.

      Does the Northumbria Force have the tit back or have they gone the way of so many Forces and adopted the flat cap. I hope not a real gripe with me is the wearing of a flat cap. Its not more comfortable and they both get knocked off in a tumble....ahem time to step of the soap box.

      Craig

      The traffic helmet was definitely for real. Other forces tried jackets with flashing lights on them.

      As for the straw helmet it was a victim of the Home Office's desire for standardisation. Many, many US agencies wear basket weave hats in hot weather to this day. Northumbria Police adpted the comb style helmet which looks particularly inappropriate with the modern police fashion of very cheap wicking t-shirts and cargo pants that leaves most UK forces, in the inimitable words of Terry-Thomas, looking like an "absolute shower".

    2. The straw helmets were worn in the post Great War era until the early 1930s. They were abandoned because the Home Office wanted less variation in uniform style between the forces.

      Luton was unique in that it had a borough force until 1947 when it was merged with Bedfordshire Constabulary. In 1964 Luton became a County Borough and was so entitled to have its own force again. It was reformed on January 1st 1964 but in July of that year the Home Secretary used his powers to dissolve the force on the grounds of "efficiency". The County Borough Council appealed through the courts but to no avail as the new Police Act sealed the force's fate.

    3. My info is that the armband was discontinued in 1972/3 and was replaced in England and Wales with the wearing of a diced cap band, as used in Scotland first.

      The regulations changed to state that the cap should be worn while on duty, presumably replacing that aspect of the Duty Armband that says if your not wearing it your off duty. Serving and retired officers could confirm this perhaps. I know it was a big issue to put your cap on when you got out of an official vehicle.

      Bengullion -

      Interesting to see how the arm band attached, however I think this may be a 'Met' only way of wearing it ,as most photos show the buckle to the outside between the two loops.

      Most forces didn't wear an "on duty" armband prior to the adoption of the Sillitoe Tartan in the early 1970s. However, Newcastle Upon Tyne City Police did have a "zebra stripe" band on their caps before the switch to the diced version.

    4. I have memories of it being a little later then 1968. Perhaps a little earlier then the estimate I gave of 1972/3 - however, I had two issues so it must have been at least three years that I wore the band. Does anyone have a clearer recollection ?

      How is progress going with your eventual application - I hope you are still keen on joining ?

      Off duty coppers - well those on their way to and from work - stood out a mile. It was always a tweed jacket with their duty blue shirt and tie underneath. Funny thing is you don't see that anymore because they live at the other end of the county and drive into work.:rolleyes:

    5. Thanks Ed. A very useful listing and saves a lot of work when having to look things-up. With so many old Forces there is room for many more collectors in this field. Police have always been the 'poor' relative - the public seem to find the Military more interesting.

      Interesting but not exhaustive.For example Borough of Hove Police is not listed.

      The really strange thing is that actual prices for long obsolete forces' insignia are now barely any higher (and in many cases lower) than 30 years ago.

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