Cathey

Item Scott’sGuard Officer’s Forage Cap

Date 1840 – 1844

Nationality British

Marks, etc. Makers mark inside: Crown & Victorian Cipher and Cater & Co56 Pall Mall London.

Description

Victorian Scots Guards Officer’s forage cap.

A late 19th Century example. Dark blue melton body and crown with goldgimp cord piping. Patent leather peak with gold bullion edging. Diced band of red-white-red and red-blue-red. The interior with missing lining and sweatband loose. The cap retains a good shape, and is in otherwise excellentcondition. The cap retains the Officers Diamond Cut Silver and Gilt cap badge,a very nice 2 piece example in unmarked silver. Gilt centre with undamagedgreen enamel.

Cheers Cathey and Rex

Hi Guys, we have been promising Stuart Bates that wewould put a show case up and thought we would start with this.

Highland officer's dirk ofthe Black Watch
Date Circa 1886
Nationality British
Overall Length 42.3 cm (16.7inches ) in scabbard 41.2 cm (16.2inches ) Dirk only
Blade length 28.2 cm (11.1inches)
Blade widest point 3.245 cm (1.3 inches)
Marks, etc. J GRennie" scratched on the back of the scabbard

Description

Highland officer'sdirk of The Black Watch, scallop backed blade 11", brass studded strapwork hilt, the pommel set with glass citrine (chipped), in its leather scabbardwith brass mounts en suite with hilt, the locket bearing St Andrew in wreathand owner's name "J G Rennie" scratched on to the back, the other mountsbearing thistle spray, companion knife and fork with glass citrine pommels.

General Remarks
The dirk was one of 6 lots put upfor auction with Wallis and Wallis by the Rennie family.

JohnGeorge Rennie, DSO was born 25th February 1865, entered the Black Watch 1886 asLieut, promoted to Captain March 1893, Adj Royal Highlanders May 1893-97. ADC to Brigadier General commanding 1st Bde,British Div, Sudan Exped. Force July to Sept 1898, present at the Battle ofKhartoum (MID 30.9.1898) awarded Medjidie 4th class 1898. During the S African war, ADC to Maj Genl,Infantry Bde Oct to Dec 1899. Took partin the advance on Kimberley, present at Magersfontein, operations in the OrangeFree State (MID 16th April 1901) Cape Contingent, created Companion of the DSO(London Gazette 19th April 1901) "In recognition of services during theoperations in South Africa", DSO presented by General Littelton Natal 4thNovember 1901. Rennie retired from thearmy in 1905, during 1907-8 he became the Vice President of the Black Watch OldComrades Assn London branch. He was on Reserve of Officers and at the outbreakof WWI was recalled, promoted Major and served in Admin.

Picture appears out of focus when I previewed post, not sure what the problem is as it was very clear before resizing.

Cheers Cathey and Rex

Well Patrick I will never bid against a friend and if I see one, that say I already have, I will give you the details. A couple of friends in Adelaide asked me to comment on several pieces of headgear that a collector offered them. Unfortunately one was a Scots Guards forage cap which I desperately wanted but advised them to buy. Damn!

One I would really like to have is that to the 2nd Dragoons with the Van Dyke band.

Stuart

Hi Stuart

We are the people from adelaide and are very greatful for the help and honesty not to mention knowledge thanks again.

cheers Catheyand Rex

The RRF (Royal Fusiliers)Museum at The Tower of London may be able to help?

http://www.2day.ws/R...AboutTheMuseum/

Thanks Leigh, I will get onto them. Cheers Cathey

I have a English-Infantry Pattern-1854 Sword Engraved on the Blade C.H. MALAN. 75TH STIRLINGSHIRE REGT AND “DEUS ARX MEA’ = Latin translation God keep me. Whilst I have been able to collect two books written by C H Malan “Sketches from life in the British Army and A Soldiers Experience” I have been unable to track down a picture of the man, hence this post.<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">

Major Charles H MALAN 75th Regiment.

Ensign – 6/11/1854

Lieut – 9/3/1855

Captain 4/6/1858

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Captain Malan served in the 7th Fusiliers at the siege and fall of Sebastopol from 12th June 1855 (Medal and Clasp), was severely wounded in four places at the first assault of Redan (medal and clasp, and Turkish Medal). Malan was deeply religious and involved with a number of churches which I have writtent to along with his regiment, to date no one has found a picture of the man.

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If anyone happens upon a picture of Major Charles H Malan I would be most grateful or has any idea of where else I shoudl try.

Cheers Cathey

I have a English-Infantry Pattern-1854 Sword Engraved on the Blade C.H. MALAN. 75TH STIRLINGSHIRE REGT AND “DEUS ARX MEA’ = Latin translation God keep me. Whilst I have been able to collect two books written by C H Malan “Sketches from life in the British Army and A Soldiers Experience” I have been unable to track down a picture of the man, hence this post.

Major Charles H MALAN 75th Regiment.

Ensign – 6/11/1854

Lieut – 9/3/1855

Captain 4/6/1858

Major – 14/10/1868

Captain Malan served in the 7th Fusiliers at the siege and fall of Sebastopol from 12th June 1855 (Medal and Clasp), was severely wounded in four places at the first assault of Redan (medal and clasp, and Turkish Medal). Malan was deeply religious and involved with a number of churches which I have writtent to along with his regiment, to date no one has found a picture of the man.

If anyone happens upon a picture of Major Charles H Malan I would be most greatfull.

Cheers Cathey

Cathey - welcome to a new Aussie member. I agree with Stuart - about three year intervals gives you coverage. Remember that dealers mainly buy from auctions - you can download directly from any number of London book auctions - the lists come-up frequently. (Interesting spelling for your name - Cathay was the old name for China...)

Hi Mervyn

My Name is Catherine, but I think when it was shortened to Cathey it was probably just mispelt and has kind of stuck, no exotic explanation I',m afraid.

Hi Cathey,

I have 67 Army lists on CD/DVD and all bar two came from YourOldBooksandMaps. The other two from S&N Genealogy. I also have two original hardcover lists.

1. I can't comment on the downloadable side of things because I prefer to have the CD/DVD versions.

2. I generally buy both Hart's and the War Office versions but if I had to make a choice I guess I would go for Hart's as it provides a complete record of an officer's commission and subsequent promotion as well as details of any MIDs and awards he may have received.

3. I think three year intervals is not a bad way to approach collecting these lists. I have been buying for about four years and just bought whatever became available in the period that I was interested in.

4. Not quite sure what you mean here - some lists are a must have if you are researching or interested in a particular era or campaign etc.

I am biased as to the supplier as I have dealt with David Ford of Your Old Books and Maps on many occasions and he is very helpful. He has traced officers details for me, found medal cards and tracked down patents etc.

Hope this helps,

Stuart

PS. You're not getting out of swords and into Blue Cloths are you:D

Hi Stuart, thanks for that I have also found David Ford to be very helpful when a download had problems. WIth 4. I just wondered if some particlualr years might have more detail. No not getting into helmets but they are lovely, unless a really nice Scottish one falls into my lap, what can I say I'm week when it comes to collecting. Actually Rex is no better.

regards Cathey

Hi guys

Since moving my collecting interests to Victorian swords in the vain hope that they would be researchable I have been collecting downloaded Army lists. I started off with the free ones on Goggle, however the quality is generally too poor to search electronically. Now I have decided to buy copies that I can download direct and have found at least three providers on the Web:

The Parish Chest (downloadable)

Your Old Books & Maps (downloadable)

S&N Genealogy Supplies (only available on CD)

What I have found is that whilst all of these have been searchable, the quality of the print still varies. I have the following questions:

1. Has anyone found a supplier they prefer for quality of downloadable Army Lists?

2. Which is best to purchase Harts or the War Office version?

3. To gain maximum coverage should I be looking to buys lists in three year intervals to start with?

4. Are some specific lists better than others and a must have.

Cheers

Cathey