HugoB268

I would have thought the green and white of the KSA - he may have awarded it to himself - many did ?

I think he has the 'cheekiest' Irish smile...

Hi Kev/Mervin

Many thanks for your comments. One thought that did occur to me , did the 'management' of the National Volunteers issue any 'commemorative' medals for any purpose? An article in Freemans Journal for 20 April 1915 records that a L/Cpl in my grandfathers company (F Coy, 2nd Batt, Dublin Regiment INV) left Dublin to join the 8th Batt, Royal Dublin Fusiliers at Buttevant wearing his INV uniform - perhaps 'other medals' could have been worn with permission?

Re the smile, I remember my father saying that his father had an 'impish' sense of humour.

quote name='Paul L Murphy' date='08 September 2009 - 23:10 ' timestamp='1252447836' post='365565']

Having seen the picture you emailed to me I am pretty certain that what he is wearing is the uniform of a Commandant (equivalent to Major) in the City of Dublin Regiment of the Irish National Volunteers. They did not use the FF capbadge mentioned by Kevin, their badge was the arms of Dublin in a circle of shamrocks with the unit name on a scroll above.

Hi Kevin

Yes I had a bit of bother getting onto the site earlier - thought it was my PC that keeps crashing it had better start behaving or else!

If you could have a look your newspaper files I would be most grateful.

H

BTW I am fairly sure it won't be an OTC unit either but I will post some of the pictures and see what happens on the Gt War site - thanks again.

To me, the badge on the right cuff looks like a crown, and I'd say the ribbons are the QSA and the KSA.

The cap and collar badges certainly don't look like any British Army badges in the books which I have. Perhaps they're from one of the dominions or colonies.

Hi Arthur

Thank you for your comments. I have attached different picture (sergeant in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers) that shows the same medal ribbon(s). I wonder what the one is to the left of the QSA - is it fact a full width medal ribbon , or something else? I don't think it could be the KSA because he was sent back to the UK quote " Time Exp: To England 31^10/_00" unquote according to the Medal Roll. He was discharged to the reserves in Sheffield in Jan 1901.

Also attached is as high a resolution scan I can do of the 'cuff' showing the 'harp' instead of the 'crown' - I'm sure you'll agree that it is not a crown

I agree that the cap and collar badges are unlike anything I have ever seen - anywhere in anyone's army; and I don't think he ever went anywhere 'abroad' other than England (Sheffield) and South Africa.

Thanks again.

Best

H

Hi Coldstream

I agree, where did he get that hat????????????

H

Leigh

Thanks for your thoughts.

Best

H

Hi Kevin

As I said, I am sure the photo was taken c1914/15 so is before the Free State came into existence.

The 1st medal ribbon may be the QSA, the 2nd, no idea.

Thanks for your thoughts anyway.

H

Hi Paul

I'll try to PM the original scan (approx 230KB), the harp is much clearer.

H

Hi Coldsteam.

Thank you for the compliment it took ages to get rid of some of the marks/creases too!

(I can send you a scan of the photo at higher resolution if you wish - when I can use a PM facility)

Sadly there in no information on the back. (why were my family so remiss in not annotating their photos )

I'll have to give the next step some thought!

H

Can anyone help please?

In among my late father's papers was a photograph of a gentleman in what at first appears to be that of a British Army Major's uniform. However, if you look at the right hand cuff you will see that instead of the ususal major's 'crown' there is what appears to be an Irish 'harp'. The cap badge and lapel badges also look 'strange'.

Could this be a uniform of the Irish National Volunteers?

This gentleman also appears to be wearing two medal ribbons so perhaps a veteran of earlier service in the British army?

I believe the photograph was taken 1914/15.

Grateful for any suggestions.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2009/post-7752-125257805293.jpg: Higher res scan uploaded 10Sep09