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Found a fake Type II Orts leader badge. Note the glittery silver and improper pin. The back seems to be cast from an original, as the RZM mark is right.
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As we're tlking about the NSF, here's a little bio and photo of Reichsfrauen-Fuhrerin Gertrud Scholtz-Klink:
Gertrud Scholtz-Klink joined the Nazi Party in 1928. Within two years, she headed the National Socialist Women's Union (NSF) in Baden. On January 1, 1934, Scholtz-Klink became Deputy Leader of the NSF. By November 1934, she headed all female groups within NSDAP, including the Frauenwerk, the Women's League of the Red Cross, the Women's Bureau in the Deutsche Arbeitsfront, and the Woman's Labor Service.
After eluding capture for nearly three years, on November 18, 1948, Scholtz-Klink was sentenced by a French military court to eighteen months imprisonment. In November 1949, the de-Nazification court branded Scholtz-Klink a "Major Offender". She died in 1999.
In the photo below she appears to be wearing the Gold Party Badge, Gold HJ Honour Badge and possibly the Studentenbund Honour Badge (but no NSF leader badge).
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Stephen, On the Type II standard badges, do you happen to have 9118G in Husken's book? The one I posted is that badge. Measurements are 21.5mm x 21.5mm. If you do and have the time and inclination could you post an image of its' reverse please? Also, with all the confusion with regard to Frauenschaft badges in general, what points of reference do use to determine originality? Since reverse markings seem to be up-in-the-air is it an in-the-hand and feel judgement? Take care and thank you. Robert
Hi Robert -
I'll have a look at my Husken when I get home (which editon is the number from, since they changed with the new one?).
Some of it is feel, unfortunately. Fakes I have seen are usually flatter, with originals being slightly domed. The rest is the usual materials, finish and pin attachment. I've seen a lot of blue bordered Type II fakes. They usually have a floppy pin. J.R. Cone's book on TR enamels is a good starting point.
I'll get back about the Husken reference.
By the way, here's a photo of an NSF shoe depot in Berlin in 1940. Note the wall plaque!
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Just thought I'd add the big sister to these Type 2 badges. I don't have my ruler handy, but this is about three times the size of the smallest, and meant for wear as a broach, usually at the throat.
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A little bit of Frauenschaft trivia.
J.R. Cone in his book on enamels says no one knows what the "G-H-L" on these badges stands for. It is "Glaube, Hoffe, Liebe" or "Faith, Hope & Love", the motto of the NSF, taken from Paul's letter to the Corinthians, and often still referred to in modern marriage ceremonies.
By the way, here's my 1933 Osang Frauenschaft badge.
Cheers,
Stephen
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Here's the other one from the same period - different maker. Size: 17mm x 20mm.
Cheers,
Stephen
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Stephen, Nice collection there. I am glad you are here. Sorry about Herr Ulbrecht's widow. My oversight. If and when you would ever have the time and inclination, would it be possible to see the reverses of the 2 smaller standard Type IIs? Thanks alot. Robert
Hi Robert,
Happy to be here. Don't worry about Herr Ulbrecht's widow - I'm sure she's over it by now.
Here's one of the Type IIs. It is 21mm x 23mm in size. The RZM mark and code number without a M1 prefix means it was likely a Jan-March 1935 production piece.
Cheers,
Stephen
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And the back with the RZM maker code.
Cheers,
Stephen
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Here's one of the Type III Keisleitung Leader badges that has been questioned.
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Don, I just looked Karl Henzler in Husken 1997. I see M1/6 Karl Hensler, Pforzheim. I would think the S in the spelling in the book and the Z on the badge would be a translation thing. Would I would like to see now is a M1/6 party pin. More research. A side note: After going over the RZM list......a find a woman maker....M1/87 Karoline Gehr, Munchen. I am suprised. Robert
Hello all,
It's my first post here - glad to find there is a haven for gentlemen collectors.
First of all, there are a couple of "women's" manufacturing companies in the RZM M1 list, like M1/148: "Heinrich Ulbrects Witwe, Wien". "Witwe" means widow, so the company is "Henirich Ulbrect's Widow, Vienna". I suppose that happened when the owner died and the wife takes over the business.
I have a few Frauenschafts to share. There is some discussion about the authenticity of certain Type III Leader Badges due to an article in Der Gauleiter a few years back, but I remain skeptical since no sources were offered, so they stay in the collection until proven otherwise.
Cheers,
Stephen
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1st Pattern Frauenschaft badge
in Germany: Third Reich: Organisational Membership Badges & Tinnies
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Don is absolutely right. It's a DJ badge. He's the right age (10-14), except they were supposed to be worn on the pocket, not kerchief.