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Ah a common error. The ranks you mention are ranks which weren't designated until the beginning of the Great War prior to that the rank wherebye three chevrons with a large crown above worn on Service Dress of any pattern was that of Colour Sergeant. No badge of rank was adopted for wear on SD which reflected that as worn with full dress as seen in your photo showing Colour Sgt Surtees showing the crossed union flags. There were eight "Colours" per battalion on an eight company basis and when the new ranks of CSM and CQMS for the new four company organisation were introduced it would appear that the four senior 'Colours' became Company Sgt Majors and the junior 'Colours' became CQMS. On top of which the rank of 'Sergeant Major'(rank badge being a very large crown) was abolished and he became the 'Regimental Sergeant Major'(new badge Royal Arms)
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For some reason my write up never attached itself to the last post so here it is;- Now a nice mystery SD jacket. Obviously he's NF, but the SD jacket is a bit of a mystery as it's not a 1902 pattern or any of the patterns introduced thereafter. This appears to be a foreign service pattern and probably worn during the Boer War itself or even before. Whats interesting here are the rank badges, which aren't what you'd expect on SD. They're the gold and coloured thread rank badges normally found on full-dress. So what rank is he? 100 points for the correct answer.
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Nice photo of young members of the 4th Bn, N.F. wearing the new khaki S.D. with the detachable shoulder strap brought into wear from 1902. Young man on right seems to be wearing the 'undress' scarlet jacket as again there's no sign of piping on the shoulder strap which would indicate full dress. Note also the 'jampot' cuff. The 4th Bn was eventually disbanded 1906.
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introduced 1881 - started to phase them out c.1902. For non-Royal regiments they were always white, but when coloured facings were reintroduced 'jampot' cuffs became coloured but seemingly for a short time only. Very little information is forthcoming regards full dress and undress thereafter, but at least two other patterns were adopted by regulars, the final one being the 1913 pattern. In 1902 undress was abolished in favour of khaki SD.
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Latest edition to the collection. Northumberland Fusiliers St.Georges Day c.1900/01. This could actually be either the new 3rd or 4th regular battalion, but what is interesting is the uniform. It's the 7 button undress Home Service pattern frock jacket and what is unusual is that apart from the piping down the front of the jacket no other piping is worn. The shoulder straps are plain scarlet with the title "bomb/NF" woven in white worsted. The collar and cuffs are in 'gosling green' facing colours, although at least one individual still has the more common white collar and cuffs. What makes these jackets rarer is the fact that they're 'jampot' cuffs, which were later replaced with a pointed cuff.
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Leigh, Looking at the larger photo it is apparent that two O/R's do seem to be wearing a scarlet patrol jacket, while the rest ot their colleagues wear the darker blue patrols. It's quite possible that the two odd men out may be part of the mounted infantry section.Would there be any chance of having the full scale photo e.mailed to me for further investigation???