WNickel

Hi,

naturally I don't the original rolls - it's from the newspaper

Best regards

Werner

Hi Luftkrieg,

beautiful bars... the wearer of your first bar may be

Dr. Wolfgang Schmidt

Olympia 2. Stufe 15.01.1937 as OSA or

General von Bernuth

Olympia 2. Stufe 15.01.1937 as M

both in the Weimar ranklist with EK 1, EK 2, HssAET and black wound badge.

Schmidt was found in the 1939 ranklist as Feldgeneralarzt. Keilig listed an Schmidt-Hofmann of the austrian army as Generalarzt. von Bernuth got the knight cross of the iron cross.

Hi Rick - " roll of Olympics Decorations 2nd Class" do you mean????

Werner

Hi Paul,

for example Hilmar Daubenkropf - born near Braunschweig served in saxon.

Best regards

Werner

Hi,

Heinrich Seywald is listed in the Weimar ranklist with EK 1 , EK 2, schwarzes Verwundetenabzeichen, Fliegererinnerungsabzeichen, PHvH 3 x, BMVO 4 x...

Best regards

Werner

Hi Rick,

what do you mean????

Husung Karl Bra Zimmergeselle Greene J Bra BrRM 00.00.1880

Husung Bra KreiszimmerMstr Greene J Bra BrHdL 5b 00.00.1909

Lindemann O. Bra Soldat Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1870

Lindemann Dr. Otto Bra H?tteninspektor aD Goslar J Bra BrHdL 3b 00.00.1913

Maushake Hugo Bra Kaufmann Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1904

Maushake Bra Rentner Dobbeln J Bra BrHdL 5a 00.00.1908

R?hland Ad. Bra PolizeiOWM Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1911

R?hland Bra KriminalpolizeiOWM Braunschweig J Bra BrHdL 5a 00.00.1910

Schiller Dr. Rudolf Bra Apotheker Braunschweig J Bra BrHdL 3b 00.00.1912

Schiller Dr. Rudolf Bra Apotheker Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1910

...it's very easy....Paul Schneider.... :jumping:

Hi Claudio,

I was very interested in that bar, because here is the bar of his brother....but in this crazy times... :banger:

Hi Rick,

the bar and the mini chain and the two Carl-friedrich pieces had been sold in different lots... the stupid commerce 40 years ago... :speechless:

Hi ,

yes, I use the state and court book and have listed all awards. Now I must complete them with the original rolls....

Rick show me your ribbon bar and I will look about.

I don't know if I had shown it....

Hi Rick,

Brunswick from 1914 until 1916 is done...

Allers Hermann Bra Student Jolzminden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1911

Asche Karl Bra Sch?ler Neubr?ck J Bra BrRM 00.00.1899

Beck August Bra Kontordiener Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1872

Becker I. Pr Musketier Braunschweig IR 92 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1884

Beims Albert Bra Metallschleifer Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1907

Bremer August Bra Bahnarbeiter Holzminden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1914

Bubeck Heinrich Bra Kaufmann Bremen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1907

Busse Wilhelm Bra Postillon Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1891

Buttenberg Bra Steiger Frellstedt J Bra BrRM 00.00.1890

B?hle August Bra Brieftr?ger Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

B?hmke Heinrich Bra BadeMstr Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1899

B?ndel Konrad Bra Sch?ler Holzminden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1902

B?tticher Bra OSteuerkontrolleur Blankenburg J Bra BrRM 00.00.1892

Cuers Wilhelm Bra Steuersupernummerar Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1878

Dehn Christian Bra Student Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1910

Dony Kurt Bra Student Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Ehlers Bernhard Pr Ser Braunschweig IR 92 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Engelke Bruno Bra B?ckerMstr Wieda J Bra BrRM 00.00.1899

Erdmann Walter Bra Sch?ler Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Fesq Walter Mar Matrose Riddagshausen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1904

F?rster Bra Steueraufseher Gandersheim J Bra BrRM 00.00.1883

Genter Heinrich Bra Musiker Gandersheim J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Genzel Leonhard Bra Musiker Holzminden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1881

Gier Bra W?chter K?nigslutter J Bra BrRM 00.00.1913

Gl?ser Fritz Bra G?rtnergehilfe Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1908

Gohl Hugo Bra Handlungsgehilfe Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1909

Gottschlick Emil Pr Musketier Braunschweig IR 92 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1908

Grahl Christian Bra Schmiedelehrling Emlinghausen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Grimm Hans Bra Landwirt Thedinghausen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1909

Grote Alexander Bra OTertianer Holzminden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1881

Gr?fe Julius Bra Tischler Sier?e J Bra BrRM 00.00.1905

G?nther Alfred Bra Kaufmann Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1907

Heyne Pr UFF Braunschweig IR 92 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1885

Hund Hermann Bra Maschinenschlosser Teichh?tte J Bra BrRM 00.00.1909

Husung Karl Bra Zimmergeselle Greene J Bra BrRM 00.00.1880

Idczak Josef Bra Bergmann ?lsburg J Bra BrRM 00.00.1904

Kaesewieter Albert Bra SteuerInsp Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

Kraatz Willi Bra Malerlehrling Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1900

Kricheldorff Hermann Bra Kaufmannslehrling Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1913

Kr?mer Artur Bra K?rschner Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1901

Kumlehn Hermann Bra Lotteriehauptkontrolleur Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1904

K?chler Otto Bra G?rtner Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1914

Lampe Robert Bra Schlachtergeselle Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1910

Lieben Ferdinand Bra Maurerpolier Wenzen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1878

Lindemann O. Bra Soldat Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1870

Lippelt Kurt Bra PolizeiSer Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Luja Wilhelm Bra Malergehilfe Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1895

Mack Bra Apothekergehilfe Thedinghausen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1909

Mast Rudi Bra Forstschutzlehrling Gandersheim J Bra BrRM 00.00.1896

Maul Wilhelm Bra Ackergehilfe Veltenhof J Bra BrRM 00.00.1914

Maushake Hugo Bra Kaufmann Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1904

Meyer Helmuth Bra Sch?ler Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1913

Meyer Konrad Bra Stra?enfeger Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

Mlaske Franz Bra Lohgerbergeselle Gandersheim J Bra BrRM 00.00.1902

Mohmeyer Gustav Bra Formstecher Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1886

Natalis Friedrich Bra Polytechniker Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1887

Oppermann Heinrich Bra Schlosserlehrling Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1907

Otto Ewald Bra Student Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1913

Papenburg Walter Bra Sch?ler Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Pfannkuche Bra Techniker Helmstedt J Bra BrRM 00.00.1886

Reckler Fritz Bra G?rtnerlehrling Wenden J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

Ro?bach Paul Bra Schlosser Wolfenb?ttel J Bra BrRM 00.00.1910

R?hland Ad. Bra PolizeiOWM Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1911

Salge Rudolf Bra Handlungsgehilfe Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1895

Salomon Julius Bra Halbsp?nner Pabstorf J Bra BrRM 00.00.1896

Schiffmann Alfred Bra Klempner Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1901

Schiller Dr. Rudolf Bra Apotheker Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1910

Schlue Wilhelm Pr OSchirrMstr Wolfenb?ttel Art-Nebendepot J Bra BrRM 00.00.1913

Schneider Adolf Bra Hauptseminarist Wolfenb?ttel J Bra BrRM 00.00.1915

Schneider Paul Pr Feuerwerker Wolfenb?ttel ArtDepot J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

Schrader Pr UFF Braunschweig IR 92 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1882

Schulz Hermann Bra Trompeter Braunschweig HR 17 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1880

Sch?fer Fr. Ed. Bra Arbeiter Ahlum J Bra BrRM 00.00.1898

Sch?ppe Karl Bra Lehrer Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1886

Spies Gustav Bra Primaner Wolfenb?ttel J Bra BrRM 00.00.1887

Stelling Karl Bra Maschinenw?rter Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1903

Steltzer Jog. Chr. Bra Kollegianer Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1861

Sternberg Karl Bra M?llergeselle Helmstedt J Bra BrRM 00.00.1895

St?lting Martin Bra Gymnasiast Helmstedt J Bra BrRM 00.00.1886

Wilhelms Franz Bra Kontorist Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1873

Willikens Bra H?ttenDir Bad Harzburg J Bra BrRM 00.00.1886

W?hlbier Wilhelm Bra Gep?cktr?ger Braunschweig J Bra BrRM 00.00.1905

W?lk Friedrich Bra Bergmann Wolsdorf J Bra BrRM 00.00.1909

Zimmermann Erich Bra Hilfslehrer Wendeburg J Bra BrRM 00.00.1905

Campe Bra Rittergutsbesitzer Deensen J Bra BrRM 00.00.1895

Grone Pr H Braunschweig Fl?geladj. Herzog J Bra BrRM 00.00.1914

Werlhof Karl Pr L Braunschweig HR 17 J Bra BrRM 00.00.1912

Research Gnomes Never Forget.

Now that the Meiningen Rolls have been transcribed and published I actually AM going to be able to ID Werner's bar at some point when the Research Gnome Collective gets Saxony better organized.

Where IS Werner, BTW? Alien abductee?

Hi Rick,

do you mean Otto von K?nig.... :rolleyes:

Hi,

I think this looks good...

Hi Rick,

I know/have the prussian order lists from 1855 until 1913 and the Hessen-Darmstadt order lists from 1875 until 1914 - that is the best you can have, because the prussian and Hessen original rolls are destroyed.

Werner

Hi Rick,

look at your photo.!!! I mean a Schutzmann and a Feldpostillon were younger man - but a Werkmeister....

Werner

Hi,

here my actual numbers

all decoration am Beamtenband (Band f?r kriegsverdienste)

MVK 1 365

MVK 1 x 1191

MVK 1 mKr 24

MVK 1 mKr+x 64

MVK 2 173

MVK 2 x 1652

MVK 2 mKr 468

MVK 2 mKr+x 1883

MVK 3 24

MVK 3 x 907

MVK 3 mKr 71

MVK 3 mKr+x 149

Werner

Hi Rick,

i have 4 prussian wearer of the MVK 3 Kr+x am Band f?r Kriegsverdienste:

Dabkowski Johann Pr Feldpostillon Postpferdedepot J Bay BMVK 3 mKr+xaBKV 26.01.1917

Vesper Alfons Pr WerkMstr elekt. Bahngesellschaft M?nster J Bay BMVK 3 mKr+xaBKV 27.03.1916

J?ckel Johann Pr Schutzmann PolizeiDir Metz J Bay BMVK 3 mKr+xaBKV 02.07.1916

Schulz Gustav Pr Schutzmann PolizeiDir Metz J Bay BMVK 3 mKr+xaBKV 02.07.1916

Hi Rick,

I think you are correct in all....

or a last Ernst Pohl

or Richard Kunze..

or Emil Clemenz..

..sorry it's too big.

Next candidate is Fridolin Fladel

Hi Rick,

the forst candidate is Oswald Liepke - gettinh the ?sterreich silbernes Verdienstkreuz

...and of the Philippsorden - complete 12640 awards

Gro?kreuz 577

Komtur 1 453

Komtur 2 1175

Ritter 1 4435

Ritter 2 2360

Verdienstkreuz 3640

Best regards

Werner

Hello,

and here are the result of the Ludwigsorden - complete 1590 awards

Gro?kreuz 323

Komtur 1 74

Komtur 2 147

Ritter 1 427

Ritter 2 257

golden M 74

silver M 288

There were no differences between the type of medal - Verdienst, Treue Dienste, etc. - how they are published...

Werner

Hello Rick and David,

I do also the Ludwigs- and Philippsorder and the other exotics from the Ordenslisten 1875 to 1914. Now I will count the Ludiwgs- and Philipps awards. About publishing - we will see how the W?rttemberg and our/your other projects work.

Werner