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      Order of the Red Banner, 2nd Award

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      Dear Paul,

      very nice & well preserved item :cheers: .

      Medical citations are rather rare and something special :D .

      It is a well proven fact, that the Red Army - besides the US-Army - had the best and most sophisticated system of medical evacuation and treatment in WW II :jumping: . So, these comrades made a very good job.

      I have an absolut ident ORB 2nd award - type 3 / version 4 - with the s/n. 19404, which is also a long service award. It belongs to a small - and incomplete: long service Lenin is missing :( - group of Airforce Major Baranovsky, who served at the far east war theatre during WW II - still unresearched ... :rolleyes:

      These ORB 2nd awards got rather expensive at the market the last months - about USD 2000,- , as also the normal ORBs almost doubled their prices. But the fact is, that an ORB is one of the highest ranking and most prestigeous orders of the Soviet Union, what might explain the growing (Russian) demand for these items.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      Transfering posts to correct threads

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      Hello Christian, I will look at this tonight and I will merge the similar posts. :beer:

      Dear Bryan,

      many thanks :cheers: .

      Please put the above mentioned postings between post #7 and post #8 in the Flag-thread.

      I just edited my post #7 there, so that the whole story fits and gives sense.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      BTW: Seen by citations, the Flag-thread is by far the most impressive at GMIC-YU :jumping: . (Also by terms of replies & views :D .) The YU-Flag is a rather high-ranking, very international, well designed - AND still very cheap YU-Order.

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      "Liberation of Korea" medal

      in South East & East Asia

      Posted

      Dear Bob,

      that Korean medal is important, because it draws the interest to a widely neglected - by Western historians - field of the history of WW II, the "Operation August Storm" by the Red Army in Eastern Asia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      Thanks forum-friends for your help. :cheers:

      This award came to me as a result of a "weak" moment while browsing eBay... but I do like the international aspect of medals which indicate ties with Soviet Union or its "sister states" and hope to get more awards which link into this theme.

      Just won an auction for a documented (incl. photograph) sino-soviet friendship award as well as an Afghan Order of Friendship of Nations apparently awarded to a Mongolian diplomat... I sense a slippery slope :unsure::banger::cheeky:

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      Soviet & Eastern Block Quiz

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted

      Gentlemen,

      back from Pluto, aliens, Crown-subjects & retro-knights to Christophe's quiz.

      I want to congratulate Jim again to his victory and ask him to post the new question #161.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      Dear Jim,

      congratulation to your victory #9 :cheers::jumping:

      Your answers are 100 % correct :D .

      Sir Georgy Zhukov G.C.B. might have ended in the House of Lords as his Lordship George Zhukov 1st Viscount of Berlin :P:speechless: .

      Marshal Zhukov got in 1945 the Knight Grand Cross of The Most Honourable Order of the Bath, the most supreme class of that high-ranking British Order:

      <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Bath" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Bath</a>

      But Marshal Zhukov didn't leave the CCCP, but took up his brilliant career after Stalin's death and promoted to the rank of a minister of defense - and got his 4th HSU-Star in december 1956.

      Most of the historians think, that he got HSU #4 as the supreme commander of the "Operation Hungary 1956" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956. And it was not the practice in the 1950s to confer HSUs for mere round birthdays, which got the (bad) tradition during the Brezhnev-era. There had been quite a lot of HSUs - and other high-ranking orders - confered for Hungary 1956 by the Supreme Soviet. I guess, that even Yuri Andropov <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov</a> , at that time Soviet Amabassador in Budapest, got one of his Lenin's for playing mastermind during the operations in Hungary 1956.

      Question #161 is now your turn :cheers: .

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      QUESTION: Eugene Rabkin

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      Gentlemen,

      as I already stated at post #8 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=216745 in this thread, everybody can build up his own verdict by reading Herrn Rabkins commentaries to my postings at the "other" Soviet forum http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/index.php? , where Prof. Ed Haynes and other experts of our collectors community are banned for lifetime - also due to the "support" of Herrn Rabkin :angry: .

      Herr Rabkin tells you, that I am an uneducated idiot. O.K., that's his private opinion :D . I am asking you, why is it possible, that such a humble & primitive creature like me is the leader - 33 victories - in Christophe's sophisticated GMIC-quiz about communist awards & military history :unsure: ?

      Herr Rabkin tells you, that I am a nasty guy, who constantly insults other collectors. O.K., that's his private opinion :D . I am asking you, did I ever insult a GMIC-member or have I been ever banned from GMIC :unsure: ?

      "BTW, there were delays on several shipments of the medals on my part. I?ve already straightened it out or trying to resolve it. I failed to reply in timely matter and a couple of my customers were concern ..." Herr Rabkin has obviously problems in handling his business in the correct way, but that's not my fault ;) (... nor the fault of the US-Embassy in Moscow :P ).

      I really don't think, that Herr Rabkin behaves like a true Gentlemen.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      Dear Christian,

      As always, where you are, there are lies, exaggerations, and insults. Why I am not surprised?

      I never insulted any members of the collectors? community. You will never produce a single name.

      If my replies to you were not gentle, it?s because you were the one who started insults. I always try to resolve any issues in peaceful manner but there is limit to anybodies patience. You like to push those limits.

      When the ?another? forum has started I was invited to share my knowledge and expertise.

      You insulted my intelligence, stated that awards from my personal collection were fakes. Even so other experts including Paul McDaniel found them original.

      When I tried to share facts regarding Soviet awards, your replies were ?I don?t believe that?. ?It?s not true?, ?It can?t be?. You never had an intelligent argument. I realized that it?s better to ignore you than to waste time on such ignorant person. You were a single guy who tried to mess a constructive discussing.

      When I ignored you, you insulted other members and moderators of the forum. Wasn?t it the reason why you were banned from the forum? Why are you trying to give me all your credits?

      Prior to coming to ?another? forum, you made mess on the forum of German awards. The members of that forum shared this information. It?s already two forums were you were not welcome!

      BTW, there were delays on several shipments of the medals on my part. I?ve already straightened it out or trying to resolve it. I failed to reply in timely matter and a couple of my customers were concern but no ?nasty postings? as you mentioned. It?s another of your lies.

      Regarding ?we all are 100 % gentlemen?, the word ?gentleman? is not associated with your name in my humble opinion.

      I WOULD STRONLY APPRECIATE IF NEVER EVER MENTION MY NAME AGAIN OR DO ANY REFERALS TO MY NAME!!!

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      Soviet & Eastern Block Quiz

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted

      First Death-Lord of Pluto

      Dear Ed,

      that's really a fantastic title :jumping::jumping: .

      Prof. Ed Haynes 1stD-LoP

      What are the decorations of that supriour title :unsure: ?

      The title sounds, if you might be the supreme commander of the Alien Kamikaze Forces at the planet Pluto :D .

      Pluto offers nice orders & medals:

      HAL - "Hero of Alien Labour" (HAL is also the queer computer in Kubrick's "Odysee 2001" :P )

      HOP - "Hero of Pluto"

      That's a photograph of a twice HOP and one time HAL:

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      "Liberation of Korea" medal

      in South East & East Asia

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      Pindrikh was an Engineer-Captain, but his commanding officer didn't use that prefix with his rank. No clue what Unit 48222 was-- maybe one of our Federation readers can find that online. :beer:

      I can't remember ever seeing the Russian authorization award booklet before, so it is interesting to note that it was issued on 5 May 1949. Makes me wonder whether Pindrikh's unit was still actually THERE, or had returned home and this was processed inside the Soviet Union.

      Dear Rick,

      the owner of my document http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=217605 , comrade Kandybin, got his medal in january 1948 and had been located at that time as the commander of the 2nd detachment of the 12th division of small submarine hunters SovGan, VM Base, STOF, in the Far East on Soviet territory: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=115072 .

      So it seems, that all the documents - they all have Soviet Commissariat's stamps - had been processed inside the Soviet Union.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      BTW: Do you know the meaning of "SovGan, VM Base, STOF" - something like OVR (=coastal defense or coastal guard) :unsure: ?

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      Soviet & Eastern Block Quiz

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted

      Saint George as a might-be "Retro-Knight" :P

      Dear Ed,

      I don't believe that:

      As the award was given when he was a Soviet citizen, he could not retrospectively have been knighted.

      As a - hypothetical - subject of the Crown AND as a holder of a G.C.B., he has to be knighted by the next occaision :jumping: .

      Maybe we should send an inquiry to Buckingham Palace about the possibilty of getting a "Retro-Knight" :unsure: ?

      The Austrian pianist Alfred Brendel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Brendel and http://www.deccaclassics.com/artists/brendel/mov.htm (great website - have a look :D ) , who lives for decades in the UK, got in 1989 his KBE, but he is not allowed to call himself "Sir Alfred", because he didn't gave up his Austrian citizenship and took the UK one. But I guess, that whenever he gets a subject of the Crown, he will be knighted and get his "Sir" - like most of the other pianists, conductors & composers.

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      "Liberation of Korea" medal

      in South East & East Asia

      Posted

      Dear Ed,

      many thanks for the information :cheers: .

      I always thought, that only Soviet soldiers received these two - Korean & Afghan - medals :blush: .

      The special documents are a bit misleading ... :rolleyes:

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      BTW: Do you know some other states, which issued similar medals :unsure: ?

      I think we need to be very very careful not to see awards that were standard issue to soldiers of the issuing country as being somehow "special" awards to "foreign friends" (though sometimes they did come with with special documents in a language these foreigners could read). Both the PDRY and PDRA medals were standard issue medals to Korean and Afghan troops though they were also awarded to foreigners.

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      Soviet & Eastern Block Quiz

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted

      He, of course, could never have been addressed by anyone as "Sir" anything. As a non-Crown subject, the knighthood was merely honorary, though the G.C.B. was quite real.

      Dear Ed,

      that's correct, but my question had been, what would have happened to Zhukov's name, IF he would have swapped his Soviet citizenship to a British one in the 1940s :rolleyes: .

      As a Crown subject he would have got automatically - according to the regulations of the G.C.B. - his legal title "Sir" :D .

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      "Liberation of Korea" medal

      in South East & East Asia

      Posted

      Dear Bob,

      The inscription at the document says as much as:

      "The Liberation of Korea Medal is established in recognition of the Korean people's eternal gratitude to the the Great Soviet Army for their liberating Korea from the Japanese Imperialists."

      I have the ident medal + doc in my Soviet-Navy-Group of Captain 1st Rank Kandybin http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11948 with the rather low s/n. 730 and the rather early issue date of january 1948:

      I guess, there had been quite a few other countries in the history of communism, which issued such "Gratitude to CCCP"-Medals, i.e., in the 1980s Afghanistan http://www.medals.org.uk/afghanistan/afgha...fghan-r-023.htm - from Ed Haynes' website:

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      Soviet & Eastern Block Quiz

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      Dear Jim,

      congratulation to your victory #9 :cheers::jumping:

      Re question 1) I can only think of Sir Georgy (George) K. Zhukov G.C.B. - Dunno if that is what you were looking for.

      Re question 2) This was officially a 60th birthday present to Marhsall Zhukov. However as it was awarded a few weeks after the 1956 going ons in Hungary, one is left to wonder.... Some even think that this had something to do with the arrest of Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria earlier in 1953....

      Your answer are 100 % correct :D .

      Sir Georgy Zhukov G.C.B. might have ended in the House of Lords as his Lordship George Zhukov 1st Viscount of Berlin :P:speechless: .

      Marshal Zhukov got in 1945 the Knight Grand Cross of The Most Honourable Order of the Bath, the most supreme class of that high-ranking British Order:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Bath

      But Marshal Zhukov didn't leave the CCCP, but took up his brilliant career after Stalin's death and promoted to the rank of a minister of defense - and got his 4th HSU-Star in december 1956.

      Most of the historians think, that he got HSU #4 as the supreme commander of the "Operation Hungary 1956" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956. And it was not the practice in the 1950s to confer HSUs for mere round birthdays, which got the (bad) tradition during the Brezhnev-era. There had been quite a lot of HSUs - and other high-ranking orders - confered for Hungary 1956 by the Supreme Soviet. I guess, that even Yuri Andropov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov , at that time Soviet Amabassador in Budapest, got one of his Lenin's for playing mastermind during the operations in Hungary 1956.

      Question #161 is now your turn :cheers: .

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      90th anniversary of the October Revolution

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      I know comparatively little of Soviet awards. Was this medal awarded to surviving 1917 revolutionaires only?

      Dear Ulsterman,

      no, the "Order of the October Revolution" had been one of the most prestigeous decorations in the Soviet Union in the era of Brezhnev till the end of 1991:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_October_Revolution

      It ranked second amongst the Soviet orders, after the "Order of Lenin". The emphasis was on socialistic or revolutionary activities and a large range of 3rd-World-Leaders received that decoration.

      Usually the "Order of the October Revolution" had been the highest decoration a foreigner got get from the Soviet Union. Also for Soviet citizens that order was approbriate, when the deeds had been too important for an "Red Banner of Labour" and not enough important for an "Order of Lenin".

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      Lt.-Colonel as a Full Cavalier of Glory !

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      High-ranking officers with Glory-Trios

      Gentlemen,

      just by googling around about the Order of Glory in Russian language, I found that interesting Full Cavalier of the Order of Glory, who retired as a Lt.-Colonel:

      Alexei Leontovitch KOVALEV ( Алексей Леонтьевич Ковалев ), born at the 12th of may 1925 in the Ukraine.

      He finished the GPW at the age of 20, holding the rank of a Junior Sergeant and bearing the 3 Orders of Glory, one RS and the usual medals.

      Years later he retired as a Lt.-Colonel - a quite steep career :jumping: .

      Here are some links to our hero (Russian language):

      http://www.interesniy.kiev.ua/old/7137/reyhstag

      http://kiyany.obozrevatel.com/news_comment.../5/10/31128.htm

      http://kiyany.obozrevatel.com/_site/src/ph...0&_id=31128 (photo album)

      Are there other such careers among the Cavaliers of Glory :unsure: ?

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

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      90th anniversary of the October Revolution

      in Russia: Soviet: Other Militaria

      Posted · Edited by Christian Zulus

      Dear Ed,

      great find :cheers::jumping: .

      Despite the fact, that I have a really large collection of communist songs on CDs, that gem is new to me :love: .

      Is there anywhere in the internet the song for download or to listen to - YouTube, etc. :unsure: ?

      Best regards :beer:

      Christian

      Kind of "nostalgic" to listen to these days?

      Страны небывалой свободные дети,

      Сегодня мы гордую песню поём

      О партии самой могучей на свете,

      О самом большом человеке своём.

      Славой овеяна, волею спаяна,

      Крепни и здравствуй во веки веков

      Партия Ленина, партия Сталина

      Мудрая партия большевиков!

      Strany nebyvaloy svobodniye deti,

      Segodnya my gorduyu pesnyu poyom

      O partii samoy moguchey na svete,

      O samom bol?shom cheloveke svoyom.

      Slavoy oveyana, voleyu spayana,

      Krepni i zdravstvuy vo veki vekov

      Partiya Lenina, partiya Stalina

      Mudraya partiya bol?shevikov!

      Free children of a state unprecedented,

      Today we sing our proud song

      About the most powerful party in the world,

      About our greatest man ever.

      Surrounded with glory, soldered by [our] will,

      Grow stronger and live for eternity

      The party of Lenin, the party of Stalin

      Wise party of Bolsheviks!

      :beer:

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