AlikN

Thank you David! I have seen your work on this subject, ....very good job! Thanks again!

Couple portraits of Order of the Iron Helmet in wear.

The cross in leaves and the eagle on top is actually a fake, this type of cross have been seen with a variety of markings j.Wagner, JGuS,  14 loth, 800 half moon, the little suspension ring is on top of the rim, not deeped in like S&l and different from Souval. And it also comes in 1813, 1870,1914, and 1939 ....fakes.

Back away slowly..... then run.

A known fake.

Thanks Biro ........... :beer:

The frame is very beaten up, but the seams looks untouched with nice patina and without splits.

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Here is 1870 ek-2 that I have a chance to get,

...is this one of those late 1900's production ? .... replacements ?

...looks like the ring was marked KO ... and someone was trying to take the mm off ...???

there are file marks and mm is almost gone.

What would be a fair price for one in this condition?

Thanks

Alik

looks like (once again) you had a very fortunate weekend, alik!

glad to see that this sort of thing is still available around here, and am doubly glad that it was YOU who got it!

.....still available and at the gunshows you can find better deals than at militaria shows,

...Eric you got to check out that gunshow........ :cheers:

AlikN - might just be the photograph, but is the centre circle concentric? The border seems a bit narrow top left?

Also what's the mark coming through the black enamel on the bottom right prong of the swastika?

Yes it looks a little of center, ...and mark on swas, just a glare, reflection from camera.

....and the maker mark, ....how do you like that?

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...In the case.

Here I would like to show my latest find, ...Zimmermann DKiG,

...came in a nice looking case,

...double mark, I think the guy who marked it, took wrong punch at first, looks like ek-1 size maker mark,

than realized that and marked with correct one, ...what do you think? ...anybody seen one marked like that before?

Look at this post'45 S&L, that I used to own, lower left eagle has no feathers left and there are traces of polishing, ...only S&L didn't fix those eagles bodes after the war.

Here is my theory on crosshatching, I don't think it's a die,

... the PLM cores are made and going for the enameling process, after enamel was applied awards are going for polishing, to take off enamel excess, specially the front to make sure all the letters and symbols are visible,

enamel is much harder to polish than metal, so I think in the process of polishing off the enamel excess,

they unintentionally were polishing off high points on the eagles body's and the later on rechasing them with files or gravers, and some got over polished more than the others.

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Here is unmarked Schikle

Thank you guys.......

Thanks Mike.......

No my field of collecting, ...Is there a collectors market for those?

...and ......$...?

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