ottomanmedal

I don’t see any fake. Center part of Medjiedi it’s worn, but they all look authentic.

• Couldn't find  another example.  Any help you could provide would be much appreciated.

Couldn’t find any information about this AH1299 dated Persian Pahlavi Cavalry Badge.

Any help much appreciated.

measures 2 1/4 by 1 1/4 

I would like to ask your help to collect more information for 1877-8-9 clasped SOUTH AFRICA MEDAL Recipient Pte F.J. HALL C.M. RIFLES.

Please help to identify insignia silver wire bullion badge.  120mm

On 07/01/2016 at 00:59, CRBeery said:

A face to go with it!

 

 

 

 

This is his Medal Bar as seen on this picture. 

On 11/09/2015 at 00:31, ottomanmedal said:

This Ottoman Empire Silver Buyuk Imtiyaz Medal (Grand Medal of Distinction) was named to Mirliva (Major General) Von Rüdgisch Pasha on 1899.

His personal silver seal with his name engraved.

This Ottoman Empire Silver Buyuk Imtiyaz Medal (Grand Medal of Distinction) was named to Mirliva (Major General) Von Rüdgisch Pasha on 1899.

The inscription (engraving) looks newer as the medal... no patina around or in the inscription... Turkish written in arabic letters is quite hard to decipher, because very few use it today (since Atatürk, it is used latin alphabet), but it would be nice to see what can be read and if it's free of possible orthographic mistakes...

I'm a bit skeptical, but it's just me!

ciao,

Claudio

Claudio, it says exactly "Graf Ferdinand".Of course that doesn't mean its %100 Graf Zeppelin.If there other Graf Ferdinands exist, it could be one of them as well.The inscription its not new. Unfortunately the Medal was cleaned once, so there is no patina left.Also I took the picture under the light to show better details of that engraving,so it is a little shiny.Also, lets say you are engraving a medal and trying to look like honoring Graf Zeppelin, why not directly engraving the name "Zeppelin" ?? If thats the whole point ,don't you think that would of make everything easier??

Regards

Just curious, is this gold or silver medal?

If it's indeed to Graf Zeppelin... wow!

The medal is not listed in Bretzendorfer's work on non-Württemberg awards to Württemberg military.

But that doesn't mean necessarily he didn't get one, I'd say...

The Medal its in Silver.

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Thank you in advance.

Kind regards

Andreas

Yes Andreas you got it right.

Dear Collectors,

I would like to get some information regarding of an Ottoman Empire Iftihar ve Sanayi Medal (Pride, Gratification, Fine Arts and Industry Medal) which has an inscription on the reverse named to "Graf Ferdinand"

I would appreciate all those Collectors,who can help me to find more information regarding that Graf Ferdinand (von Zeppelin) honored with this medal.Like pictures,paper work..

Thank you very much.

Muhittin

I would like to get some information regarding of an Ottoman Empire Iftihar ve Sanayi Medal, which has an inscription on the reverse named to "Graf Ferdinand"

I would appreciate all those Collectors,who can help me to find more information about Graf Ferdinand von Zeppelin honored with this medal.Like pictures,paper work..

Hello Stuart,

This is not a medal,it's a silver coin AH1327 regnal year 6 10 Kurush Egypt /Ottoman Empire.

Best wishes,

Muhittin

Neither makes it bad!! What is the criteria of quality Don?? Why is all of them different then the official made Turkish War Medal??

Regards

I bet if we say they are good we would see more of them pop up.

I believe these are older fakes. Perhaps even post WW2 replacement pieces. The quality is just not there for a German made piece from the interwar years.

Pin set ups were made in huge batches. Companies are still using leftover stock in some cases. We discussed this before over on WAF. Heck, after the war several dealers went around to wartime manufacturers and bought up existing stocks.

I for one will not talk myself into believing it is a good one. Just because it is the only one you've seen doesn't make it good.

I think the company made handful of this Medals,but probably didn't meet the quality standards and they just discontinue making them.

I did find another piece sold on German eBay in the past,but unfortunately the seller did not post the reverse picture of the medal on his listing.

He described the medal as;

Imperial German World War I 1st Class Turkish Gallipoli Badge

The dimensions are 2 1 /4 inches wide by 2 1/4 inches tall
Has a maker mark on re verse marked "Preissler Pforzheim" Has a thin horizontal pin back This is a five pointed star with red painted high-lights Nickel construction
Very good plus condition

No, as Chris said it is probably good, but who ever he was he got the pin similar to that badge and attached it to the medal.

and again as Chris says: If Preissler DID make TWM back then.... why are they unknown? Why is just one or two on the market?

That is the point Muhittin, this maker (Preissler Pforzheim) was not the maker, IMO somebody else used that makers pin to make this medal.

While the pin was attached, the word Preissler somehow was blurry and some letters at the end was carved by hand.

A German badge made by the same company with the same letters, actually exact same pinback.. So this must be a fake badge as well..

Yes, in general if you are planning to make fakes and make money out of it,you will find your way to do it,but my point is specifically this piece.The only piece ever seen by this maker.

I do see your point Chris,but why would you take your time and just make one fake piece like that?

Does it really worth that effort,time and the money??

My point is,we have members here collecting for 30-40 years and not even one person have seen any other piece made by the same maker.

Let's say someone wants to make money by making Gallipoli Stars,why this quality?? How could you make money with this quality star??

Why not Godet? Or Meybauer ? I am sure that person would make a fortune if he would go with one of this makers..

regards,

Muhittin

Hi Muhittin,

I pass no judgement on originality, my observation is simply that this example would be very easy and cheap to fake.

Best

Chris

We have many experienced GMIC collector members here.I have been collecting for over 10 years and never seen any other piece like this.When a piece appears it doesn't mean necessarly it's a fake piece!

I would recommend instead of calling the piece a "fake" just research.

Regards

Muhittin

Are we sure that this piece is really a fake piece?

Did any other Collector have seen another example made by this specific company?

If it's fake,what is the purpose of making a fake Star?I am sure making this star will cost more then purchasing a genuine one..

Your friends Imtiyaz Medal looks OK to me...as we know Imtiyaz Medal was established in 1882,and came in two classes, gold and silver.

I would recommend your friend to make sure that this piece is silver,also the weight should be 21-22 grams and 37.5mm in dimension.