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yet another

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PLM on the uniform

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2011/post-948-0-42390200-1314936165.jpgback (now again I claim no opinion on originality. I just know where it came from)

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Photos of the PLM mentioned with the Hohenzollern crown

The last photo did not load, note again the history (last paragraph) of the information on Jacobs

Hi,

Sorry to say that but this medal bar has not belonged to Jacobs, we are ok with that ? In fact Jacobs received only the Hamburg hanseatic cross and not the Lubeck.

About uniform shown here, the Feldbinde seems to be a Bavarian one, can you confirm it ?

Christophe

Hi Christophe!! I will try to get a better shot of the Feldbinde and confirm it's German State. I honestly would not know a good medal bar from a fake one. However, I have seen photos of Dr Parks and LT Jacobs together with his medals, especially the PLM with Hohenzollern crown attached to it. This makes for a really interesting case. Did LT Jacobs have multiple sets that he wore to certain occasions? Did he have several copies that he got in the 60's as to not damage the original sets?

Guys I can tell you for a FACT that this stuff came to Dr Parks from Jacobs. There is no questioning that the Lafyette Foundation in Colorado (USA) recieved these items from the man himself. The neat thing about this story is, what did LT Jacobs consider important to "give away"? Did he have his original, tucked away, and wore good copies to functions. Did he give Dr Parks a copy medal, thinking who would know the difference (and honestly, did he think anyone would ever notice the way we do?) These are the neat questions I would love to ask.

Ok more photos (I should be in bed)

Here is the book on the Blue Max that features these two awards (this does not mean anything, just wanted to point out these have been around a while) Note the history on the one with the Crown. This doesnt have a date on it, so who is to say it was not made in the 50-60's

closer shot. More to come again!

Hi Guys!

More to come on this! I love a good mystery!

LT Jacobs was a close personal friend of Dr Parks. Dr Parks, MD, was teaching at the University of Munich when he met the Lt. They developed a large friendship and, as I understand from Dr Park's son, Lt Jacobs gave his medals, dunkelblau uniform, and several very nice photos to Dr Parks later on. These items would have to have been given in the late 60's or early 70's. I do not know the exact date, but I will find it.

I talked with Stephen Privitaria about the Technical Museum, there is some doubt that the PLM to Lt Jacobs, in the museum, is his actual medal. More to come--I took more close ups and will post them this weekend.

A new photo I got (actually a while ago) but I am just posting it. It is a SPAD XIII of the 95th Aero Squadon......but notice anything different about it? :)

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-948-0-16032000-1314242093.jpgughh these stink. I promise better photos. I was playing around with their new Spad XIII wingframe, and the museum director just put these in my hand. Was too excited to hold still. :)

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I promise I will get better photos of these. But how often do you get to hold two named Pour Le Merite's in your hand? Both of these reside in the Dr Parks museum in Colorado and were given to him by Jacobs himself. Jacob's dunkelblau uniform and medals are also in the museum.

--the bright one was given to Jacobs post war by a Navy ace, and the crown is soldered onto the cross itself.

--the other looks like an issue piece, but I could not get a good shot of the hallmarks.

crappy camera phone- My good 18 Meg one died on me.

I will get better photos in a couple weeks if there is interest.

ADDENDA:

The Order of Lenin was awarded to civilians for outstanding services rendered to the State, to members of the armed forces for exemplary service, to those who promoted friendship and cooperation between peoples and in strengthening peace, and for other meritorious services to the Soviet state and society.

The only modern Russian award that comes close to it is the Order of St Andrew the Apostle. The Order Of Saint Andrew is the highest military and civilian order of Russia. It is awarded for "exceptional services leading to the prosperity and glory of Russia".

Tsarenko, my friend, I give you the point here... After a careful review of the award criteria of all of the top Soviet and modern Russian awards, you are correct. The Soviet equivalent of the Russian Federation's Order of Valour is the Order of the Red Banner.

Did Russia re constitute the Order of St Andrew?? I was not award that had been brought back! Another beautiful award!

I agree and repeat: Maxim Vladimirovich, you are a hero in every sense of the word!

Wow -- I must agree.

Would this have the same type requirements as the German East Front Medal?

The Crosses of St George are not Orders and in my humble opinion, they replace the 3 grades of the Order of Glory. They are way below the Order of Valour in the order of precedense of the Russian Federation being classed as decorations which by definition, come after Orders.

That was going to be my question, what replaced the Order of Glory. Personally, I think the St George medal is a great choice. Wasnt there a large distinction between the Order and Medal during Tsarist times?

Ughh. Really makes you sad when stuff like that happens. I see it alot with the WWI American Aero Squadron stuff on the market these days.

You've had some amazing stuff Chris. That fact that most of it was named was the amazing part. That 12th SS tunic is still my favorite due to its history

A Cohiba of course.... special selection......

So... I guess by now it is obvious what was coming.....

It is in this picture.....

http://gmic.co.uk/in...ons-collection/

excellent! It has been so long since I had a good cigar. I smoked my last Monte Cristo over a year ago. I'm so happy we embargo Cuba :P

You are such a drama queen. Show the thing dammit.

ROFL!!!!!

What kind of cigar?? :)

Catholic Bavarian Monk serving his duty time. The Catholic monks were allowed to wear their robes rather than a unifom if they represented a certain order. I saw the majority of these with Bavarians.

An Orthodox would be a little different in the vestment and cross.