Kev in Deva

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Kev in Deva

Hallo Gentlemen

While working on my research material for my book, I have come across reference in 1830 to FORTY STAND OF RIFLES.

My question is what exactly is a Stand? Is it a reference to X amount of weapons grouped together??

I served over 21 years in the military and never heard weapons refered to in Stands, ours were all racked.

Kev in Deva,

This is in 1/35 scale. An additional photo.

Hallo Ron,

its a great model, and fantastic weathering to represent the rust just by chance I found this picture of a similar tank* at a collectors meeting in the town of Timisoara, Western Romania, yesterday, on the back in Romanian is written "Powerful Military Tank Bucharest, 15th May 1938." (the shot with the men).

The other two shots are taken from the:

WorldWar2.ro Romanian Armed Forces in the Second World War website.

* = The tank is still in Bucharest today at the Romanian Military Mueseam but apears to missing the gun!!

Kev in Deva.

This shows the stiching detail around the trouser pocket.

Kev in Deva.

The bottom of the pants legs which would have been tucked into officer style high boots, on the right side is a hole but it looks like a purpose Tailor made hole with reinforcing stitching. Possibly to stop the trouser pulling out of the boot?? I believe the opposite leg is similar in design.

If anyone can add to the description I appriciate it, and remember if your intrested they are available so please PM me or email.

Kev in Deva,

By the way I have a Russian 1970s Pilots jacket, pants, and overcoat and unworn boots stored in my garage, which I obtained in Germany, thats what gave me the idea this one is Russian design.

UPDATE: Thanks Rick, sorry if I spoilt your thread, and thanks for the Information with regards the items..so maybe Bulgarian, Hungarian, or even Romanian, the material is certainly WW2 ish or very early post WW2. If they are of interest to anybody contact me, otherwise some farmer or gypsy will be wearing them this summer, uniform clothing regardless of age is rarely found due to the fondness of recycling material here. :-( thats why so much WW1 and WW2 clothing is so hard to find.)

Inside jacket, colour variation caused by highlighting the photo because of the dark, the material might be of a better quality than the pants, again I am not sure as military clothing is not my interest.

This shows the stiching detail around the trouser pocket.

Kev in Deva.

Inside jacket, colour variation caused by highlighting the photo because of the dark, the material might be of a better quality than the pants, again I am not sure as military clothing is not my interest.

More Uniform pictures, close up of the inner collar area the thread runs in a multipule semi circular pattern, also the hanging tape in the collar, no markings were discovered on the jacket, although their is a place for eppulates to have been worn.

Kev in Deva.

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Hallo Gentlemen,

while at a Collectors fair in the Western Romanian town of Timisoara yesterday Saturday 18th March, I came across what I believe to be an early example of a Russian aviator / pilots uniform.

It consist of a jacket and cavalry style pants. The material is of a very coarse weave, the buttons are plain brass, and the sleeve's have very thin blue cord lines near the cuffs, The pocket flaps had been pushed inside the pockets hence the crumpled look. Their might have been small brass buttons on the sleves but have been removed but I know the seller brass buttons on the table that I believe came from this jacket

The inner waistband of the trousers is a of white coarse woven band of material, there are two pockets in the trouser sides (shown with a triangle stitch pattern in the picture) it is in remarkably good condition. but tthe oblects had been rolled into a ball and stuffed in a bag by the seller.

The seller did insist it was German, but I am sure its Russian, while outside my area of expertise I didnt buy it there and then, the good news is next Saturday the 25th March it will be at the Collectors fair in Deva, my home town, and if anybody is interested in obtaining it please contact me asap.

Please look at the photos I apologise for the poor lighting, the room was very dark; If I reduce the pictures the detail is lost so if the moderater wants to move it to a new thread its ok by me.

Kev in Deva

Hallo Guys

Happy Saint Patricks to all the Irish on the forum, and anyone else who likes to celebrate it

Quick post of these few bars are in my collection before I travel west to Timisoara, to a collectors meeting.

Enjoy the weekend now

By the way it's not Astro turf but an Astro Irish Army towel

Kev in Deva

Slightly better picture of the set.[/b]

Hallo Guys

Happy Saint Patricks to all the Irish on the forum, and anyone else who likes to celebrate it

Quick post of these few bars are in my collection before I travel west to Timisoara, to a collectors meeting.

Enjoy the weekend now

By the way it's not Astro turf but an Astro Irish Army towel

Kev in Deva

Nice German mounts there. You got a good deal at the flea market.

I have seen a number of Wehrpasses where the Crusade medal is the only medal a German soldier got-usually to Nachrichten types.

I have never seen one awarded to a civvy-but somebody in the USA is doing research on these awards over in the archives this Summer.

Hallo Ulsterman Great pictures,

Looking at the pictures you posted of two Romanian soldiers, one in civilian attire the other in uniform, my interpratation of the medals are:

Civilian Set:

German Iron Cross II Class,

Romanian Military Virtue Cross on Combatant ribbon,

Ostfront Medal,

Romanian Serviciu Credincios Cross,

Crusade against Communisum 1941 Medal. (with face out).

Carol 100 Aniversary 1839 -1939 Medal.

Romanian Soldier Set:

Romanian Serviciu Credincios Cross,

Romanian Serviciu Credincios Medal,

Romanian Barbatie si Credinta Medal with swords.

Romanian Crusade Against Communisum 1941 Medal & Bar. (rear) out.

They both appear to be wearing the corresponding ribbon bars above the medals, with the Civilian-Soldier having the EK2 Ribbon & Ostfront ribbon (?) on the jacket lapel.

While the soldiers has the Ostfront ribbon on his lapel. (he might also have some insignia fixed to the ribbon bars but its hard to detirmine.

I attach also pictures of a typical Romanian ribbon bar, these were inserted into loops sown on to the tunic.

This bar is for the Romanian medals:

Romanian Barbatie si Credinta Medal with swords. (1913)

Crossing of the Danube, 2nd Balkan War 1913.

Cross/Medal of Faithful Service.

40th Aniversary of Carol 1.

Kev in Deva

Hallo to all the Soviet Collecting types who hang out in this section.

May your Vodka never stay in the bottle long enough to get warm

I am trying to put names to the medals that this ribbon bar represents, a couple or three have ne stumped.

Any help gratefuly accepted.

Kev in Deva.

An illustration:

A couple more shots including two of the front and back of the Romanian Military Virtue Ribbon award for bravery in combat, this piece is a Romanian model with the typical hook and eye style favoured by the Romanians.

Kev in Deva

An illustration:

Hallo Ulsterman

I thought you might like to see two of my Romanian awards given to German troops in WW2, one for the upper rank and one for the lower. Both were bought at a flea-market in Bavaria about 5 years ago. Before I moved to live in Romania.

One is the CROWN OF ROMANIA, with swords, for Knight, military model, (1938) silvered, on original ribbon

and mounted on a typical German Spange.

The other is the SERVICIU CREDINCIOS Cross with swords for military merit. Again with a typical German metal spange covered in black felt.

Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gentlemen

I have been looking for a decent Kyfferhauserbund medal with bars then I spotted this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-German-imperial-Ky...1QQcmdZViewItem

May I ask your learned opinions.

Kev in Deva.

Hallo Rick

thanks for the quick response, I was always a little suspect of it from never having seen even a picture of one in any of the books I have , but to give old "Anton" from Memmingen, Bavaria (the seller) his due, all the other pieces I got off him were 100% good. I would prefer to believe, he picked it up somewhere and did not know if it was real or not and just passed it on still I didnt pay more than 50 D.Marks for it.

Well into everybodys life a little rain must fall, and coming from Ireland I am used to getting wet.

Never saw VERY and awful used together before, seen VERY bad, Awfuly bad, its nice ring to it

Maybe we should have a post VERY AWFUL FANTASY THINGS THAT GO BUMP IN THE WALLET

Maybe everybody should post the pieces they got stung with at some stage, would make interesting viewing

Kev in Deva.

To the Gentlemen,

I obtained this piece from an old gentleman from Bavaria at a Flea-market, about 5 years ago, I bought a few pieces of iii reich militaria from him before and all was kosher.

He told me it belonged to his uncle from the early days of the III Reich. And they were worn with civil attire and never with the uniform.

The item measures 40mm as can be seen from the pictures sports SS Runes and the words "Mehrsein als Scheinen / More than Just belief." (a loose translation.)

And has a screw post to the rear, the fixing nut is concave - circular and measures 22mm and has the words

OTTO .S S.

Any thoughts or ideas would be appreiciated,

Kev in Deva.

Was there ever such a thing??

http://www.epier.com/BiddingForm.asp?1070177

or are we back in fantasy land

Well he does say its a beautiful detailed copy of a . . . . .

and only at 16 bucks, must be a gotta have

Kev in Deva

Slightly off topic and not an organizational badge, I thought I would post this to compliment James' fine minature party badge. Robert

Good evening gentlemen,

I wonder can anybody tell me if German WW2 Helmets were ever issued to Axis Forces, in particular Romanian Para Units in WW2.

I have just started correspondence with a Romanian Militaria buff who states a long time ago he saw a picture of Romanian troops wearing them!!

And did German Para Units ever serve/ or were stationed in Romania ? I believe they were in the Balkans??

Please tell me if I am right or mis-informed,

Kev in Deva.

UPDATE: Photo just into my email from Mihne: This picture is from the book "Armata Romana 1941-1945" by Cornel I. Scafes Horia Vl. Serbanescu, Ioan I. Scafes, Cornel Andonie, Ioan Danila and Romeo Avram. Now to try and find some

Hi,

Just wanted to post my newest medal bar.

Gary B

Hallo Gary, nice bar and beautiful enamels on the Romanian order,

For a well put together page on Romanian Royal ribbons please see:

http://www.medals.lava.pl/ro/ro1.htm

Kev in Deva.

I got this 1970-75 24 "ribbons" bar, molded to fit snugly on the chest of its Border Guards "party animal" wearer...

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notice the especially nasty Pointy Things on the bottom!!!

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but the seller had split up what WOULD have been a particularly nice pair, and this 1968-70 18 "ribbon" bar to the very same traveling parade attender went Out Into The Void Somewhere:

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still, that allows me to date several of the awards on mine, doesn't it?

Hallo Rick with regards the large Medal bar to a Border Guard Party Animal, It might interest you to know the second last ribbon is Romanian and its for:

A XX ANIVERSARE A ELIBERARII PATRIEI 1944 - 1964.

20th Aniversary of the Liberation of the Country.

Please see attached scans.

Hello!

Does anyone of you now something of romanian ordes - especially the order of the crown and the order of the star of romania - given to german officers during the war at the eastern front? It would be great if someone can give me some details about the orders and about the amount of them given as i asked before!

Thanks a lot in advance

westfale

Hallo westfale, I saw your request on the forum, I am living in Romania now, formaly I lived in Bavaria but originaly I come from Ireland and maybe I can help you a little with regards information about Romanian awards to Germans.

There is no instant source, listing awards to Germans because under the Communists it was forbidden to have such information, only recently are state records being opened and read, and a lot was destroyed years ago, there is however some information regarding awards to Airforce / Luftwaffe pilots who flew with the Romanians or in the same theatre of combat, again this will take a bit of tracking down as:

a; I dont read or speak Romanian so well.

b; The information has to be found via / through people who might have no internet connection.

Romanian Orders:

Order of the Crown, Star of Romania, Military Virtue Cross, were given in Commander, Caviler / Knight Grade, with swords, normaly the cross hung on the ribbon of military virtue

(if you look at the auction page under medals you will see one I have listed for sale under:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6173 )

also there were lower medals such as the "Crusade Against Comunisum", awarded with different battle bars and the "Strength & Manhood Medal" (Barbatie si Creditia). in III Classes.

The lower awards were freely given to German soldiers by the Romanian military as were German EKs, KVKs and "Winterschlacht im Ostern" and "Krim" Shields given to Romanian officers & troops.

High German awards were also confered on Romanian officers and vice versa.

Kev in Deva.

Romanian medals

Dear Sir, with regard "ROMANIAN MEDALS" Post 55973.

Only the last medal is Romanian, the second last is Bulgarian.

Kev in Deva.