Kev in Deva

Hallo Markgraf

Very nice picture.

possibly the Romanian police, I have quite a few military officer pictures but that style of uniform

doesnt ring any bells off the top of my head, I will have to do some checking over the weekend.

The Order of the Crown of Romania being worn is the civil version on the 1881 Emission civil award ribbon,

and the "SERVICIU CREDINCIOSU" Cross is either a gold I Class or silver II Class,

the 1906 emission ribbon being Royal Blue with silver edgeing for both of these crosses

as well as for the gold, silver, bronze "SERVICIU CREDINCIOSU" medals.

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These pieces are in my collection.

Kevin in Deva.

One for Chris to view,

I obtained this one very recently, 5 uniformed gentlemen and doggie

relaxing at a table outdoors, enjoying a glass of wine and a beer or two,

on the table a box of cigars / ciggerettes, pens and ink, and what appears to be a map.

Closer inspection show the three gents on the right of the picture to have the M.G. Insignia

on the left arm, as well as all three wearing the E.K. ribbon.

The gentleman on the extreme left, when examined with a lupe,

the edge of the cloth backing of M.G. insignia can be made out,

on his left arm, he also sports the E.K. ribbon as well.

I am certain the man with the dog sports similar insignia and E.K. ribbon

but its obscured by the hunde.

The gentleman on the left has the number "42" or "47" on his eppulatte.

Only notation on the rear of the card.

Anybody wishing to hazzard a guess wether Prussian

or Associated German States Regiment?

Kevin in Deva.

Very nice acquisition, congratulations,

never seen blue ones before, mine is black:-

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Kevin in Deva.

Thanks for the clarrification when I saw "Pursuit Squadrons" I thought maybe he was R.F.C. or R.A.F. who then went to the USA.

I presume a British Officer ? if so, all awards including Foreign ones were published in the Military Gazette of the period.

Kevin in Deva.

The missing mini insignia from mine is similar to the one pictured above.

Kevin in Deva

Close up Rear.

A piece of wire has been added as a security device to lock the pin catch tight to the pin.

Nothing is actually damaged.

Kevin in Deva.

Close up Front.

Kevin in Deva.

Rear view.

Kevin in Deva.

Picked this up recently:-

Sadly the mini insignia is missing from the upper ribbon.

Any info appriciated.

Kevin in Deva

It can be argued, debated, philosifised, talked about for years, however, as I pointed out this particular seller, of this item on Ebay has stated what it is, he has broken no laws, nor has he set out to trick anybody from their hard earned cash.

If you dont like it, dont buy it, plain and simple.

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Makes no difference what he lists it as... unless he stamps "replica" on it.... same as the cloth makers from pakistan who flood the market with fake cloth badges... They are not the ones making big bucks, but the "fake sellers" buy them up and make the big profit...

Selling a replica as a replica is of no real use when you know the next guy is going to sell it as real... its kinda like selling poppy seeds to a heroine maker and saying "I dont make heroin".... Of course, if the copy is really bad, noone cares... but I remember when I was 12-13, blowing my whole vacation budget in London on a WW1 EK2 that turned out to be made of lead....

Chris, I see where you are coming from, but, there is no Law or Legal requirement requiring the seller to have the word replica or reproduction on the item, nor is he responisible for what others do with the item once purchased, he as openly described the item for what it is.

The word Replica / reproduction could just as easily be ground off by those wishing to commit fraud.

And as has been pointed out, these items as original period pieces are readily available for purchase at very reasonable prices.

Kevin in Deva.

Some comments found online with regards these:-

There are two versions, which ones like yours and with a vertical pin (on your own as you see there are slots). pin with the vertical ones are more rare and are mostly delivered during the campaign of Russia. Italy, confident of winning in these times of war also produced with the cross pin (easier to assemble), but were generally given to veterans

Italian FRONTE-RUSSO Badge

The so-called Italian FRONTE-RUSSO honor badge was awarded in March 1943 to all those troops that served on the Eastern Front from 22 June 1941 to 5 June 1943. The badge was also awarded to Germans attached to the CSIR and 8th Army Corps. This attractive silver color badge shows the wreath with laurels (representing heroism) on the right side and thorns (representing suffering) on the left side, both touching the knot of Savoy at the top. The center of the badge shows two Cossack sabers crossing. At the base is a ribbon with the inscription "FRONTE RUSSO" highlighted in blue.

On the reverse of the badge was the name and address of the manufacturing company "F. M. LORIOLI FRATELLI, VIA F. BRONZETTI 25, MILANO" and the manufacturing pattern number "MODELLO DEPOSITATO NO. 38." The badge was attached to the left pocket of the uniform via a pin. Originally there was a needle pin with a catch that was placed in vertical position, but was later removed and instead replaced by a safety pin that follow the contour lines of one of the sabers. This die cast badge was sold for 6 Lira and was available directly from the only authorized manufacturing company the Lorioli Brothers. It came with a brown cellophane paper showing the manufacturer�s logo and address.

http://axis101.bizla...lianAwards1.htm

and pictures of many items at:-

https://www.google.ro/search?q=Italian+Fronte+Russo+Badge.&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=2mz&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvnsfd&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=c0OQUPqxMYbdsgbcwYCIBw&ved=0CEcQsAQ&biw=1016&bih=574

Kevin in Deva.

Its listed as a replica copy, which is honest enough of the ebay seller, fakes are usualy made with the intention

of deceiving the potential customer into beleiviing the item is an original piece from a specific time period.

Kevin in Deva..

With regards Romania in the latter part of WW2, the Soviets formed members of the Romanian Imperial military who were captured on the Eastern Front into the Tudor Vladimirescu division.

http://en.wikipedia....or_Vladimirescu

"A division bearing his name (Divizia Tudor Vladimirescu) was formed by the Red Army with Romanian prisoners of war who had fought on the Eastern Front. They were called on to fight the Ion Antonescu pro-Nazi Germany regime, and were absorbed into the Romanian Army after 1944. The Division had its precedent in an artillery battery of the same name, grouping Romanian volunteers in the International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War. An Order of Tudor Vladmirescu was also created."

This unit had a distinctive insignia, but as far as I am aware it was worn on the breast, headgear was a mix of Romanian Imperial caps, side-caps, Romanian helmets some retaining the King Carol cipher and standard soviet issue items of headwear.

I also believe distinction was made by the use of an armband in the Romanian National Colours for Romanian troops who were fighting on the Soviet side.

EDIT: from a net search I found these comments posted in 2004,

(sadly it appears the pictures were deleted a long time ago)

Bullion Wire embroidered patch worn on a soviet style forage cap and on the left sleeve of the uniform with the letters "TV" Tudor Vladimirescu Division. Circa 1944-1947.

and

Bullion Wire embroidered patch same as above but weith the letters "HCC" Horia Closca si Crisan Division. Circa 1944-1947.

and

Bevo woven patch similar to German style manufacture. Circa - year of wear unknown. Possible wear on the hat and sleeve.

Will try to get more info

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Many thanks for the pictures, great stuff!!!

Kevin in Deva.

Shame on the buyer, over 5 months and no payment.

Kevin in Deva.

B-107 LOT OF TWO ENGINEER'S SIGHTING TOOLS. R. J. Hopgood. London. Inclinometer with leather case. Brass and near new. And a hand level with the inclinometer dial on the side. Magnifier for ease of reading. Brass. Good+ 125 - 250

https://www.finetoolj.com/ftj.php/auction/view/59/2

Response from the GWF same as Pike above.

Kevin in Deva.

If you like, I can copy the pic and post on The Great War Forum many experts on the subject of WW1 items there.

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Gentlemen,

if I may comment, it seem that the subject is wandering far off the topic as with regards the Warsaw Shield.

Kevin in Deva. :cheers:

Recently picked up this piece in Deva, in September:-

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15 ANI = 15 Years Service.

Size: 29mm X 20mm.

Mint Marked "M.S." to the rear on the broach fitting.

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

Very nice, thanks for adding to the thread.

Kevin in Deva. :D

Sorry about the definition in these, making digital pictures of a printed scan, by camera, then cropping,

is not 100% flawless as can be seen.

Kevin in Deva.

Kevin in Deva.

Kevin in Deva.