VFMR

Dear friends, thank you very much for your replies, they were well founded and I'm very grateful about the links of old threads to learn mroe about, I never deal before with reductions and not much with the 1870 EK's. 

That is what i love from this hobby, you always have to learn something new

See you in the forum!

Dear mates,

I'm thinking to buy this cross, it looks good to me, but I can not recognize the maker mark. What do you think? (it's about 35mm, Prinzengrösse).

Thanks for your help, best regards

Excellent! Can I assume that we can also use some of these same characteristics in dating other Spanish ODM?

Hello! thanks 922F and Hugh, you can use this information in any spanish order or medal, as crowns and centers were usually a regulation for all decorations, but were some exceptions, as the Order of St. Hermenegildo...I will write something about in the future

Hi

Many thanks for a very interesting and well put together article.

Looking forward to seeing more

Many thanks :cheers;

Larry

Hello Larry!

Thanks for your words, I will update the topic with new articles, next one should be ready in few days

Best regards

Victor

Hello!

I translate today to english a small article I wrote about the spanish Order of Military Merit, reading it, new collectors will understand how to know in what era the award was made, that's not a high level article, but if it helps to someone, I would be pleased.

http://www.vfmr-ordersandmedals.com/Guias-de-coleccionismo/Essencial-questions-about-Spanish-Awards-1-The-Order-of-Military-Merit-Periods

My plan is continue writting some articles focused in the collector point of view, so feel free for share ideas about what would be interesting to read there

This is not a 1970 stuck! this medal is a "non awarded" medal, made in the 40's....Maker was Egaña, 70's issues aren't like this one, are black painted with a bad quality. Is well known in Spain, that was a big stock of these medals, sometimes, appear in a old shop or from someone who have a big case of these medals in their original case of issue, they are made in the late 30's &40's. You can buy this one safely, for a spanish dealer&collector, this one is a nice sample best regards

I'm sure it's a pre-1931 issue, could be a Alphonso XIII period order. Cejalvo is a great maker, quality of enamels must be really good.

Guys,

No politics

yups, sorry Chris!

Yes, on top case have imperial eagle, and down is J.Saz maker, later I'll post some photos.

Hi!

A photo of my soviet showcase, some rare awards like Red banner 2nd award, order of glory 2nd class, red banner of labour (jumbo)....when I've some free time, will post detailled photos of best ones.

Regards!

Another genuine J.Saz medal cased for our archive, weight with ribbon is 20.7 gr, and measures: 43mmx45mm

Another genuine J.Saz medal cased for our archive, weight with ribbon is 20.7 gr, and measures: 43mmx45mm

As I promess, few photos of WWII cross of war (model 1937-1942) at left a Egaña Cross of War for officers, a lot of Legion Condor members received this model, other is from a smaller maker, but anyway, is a nice sample.

VFMR,

That's always a sharp looking medal whenever I see one! First one I've seen with the case. Are these (period originals) still available in Spain?

ph3s,

Here's another WWII award; "1942 Spanish Cross of War" for enlisted personnel.

Tim

Hi!

I usually have some on stock, but I sold all. Anyway, will have. ¡Nice cross of war! later will show you some breast stars of cross of war.

Nice collection!! do you've docs?

The Morocoo wars was really a brutal war, was a "merciless war" I'm not sure if it's the correct word.....the insurgents never take prisioners, and wounds were abandoned on battle fields..a lot of heroic episodes, the Igueriben defenders were a good example, spanish army in Morocoo was one of the best of this period, not for technology, not for best weapons....but these soldiers were awarded with many valour and gallantry decorations aganist a brutal enemy.

And of course it's a great matter for collectors and researchers!! I don't know if exist books about in english...but anyway, I can share information about here

Hi..

do you have any award documents?

Mmm....I'm sure that the Morocco peace medal have his own award document, but the others haven't a own award document, I attached a photo of this doc from a web site. I've a good collection of spanish docs, and a doc group from a famous Navy officer, when time permits, will write a article, but must be in few months..becuase I will receive more information from some Military Archives of Spain.

And these are the medals of Morocoo wars, please, post your medals and more information, and could be a good data base for any collector :rolleyes:

In 1931 IInd Republic ordered that all campaign medals of Monarchy period must changed for this medal called "Campaigns medal", only one cathegory, and three possible campaign clasp: Cuba, Filipinas and Marruecos.

This sample, have a wound ribbon and Marruecos campaign clasp in silver and enamels (usually the officers use silver clasp, sometimes with enamels, and soldiers use the standard action/campaign clasp in copper or bronce, also in the others medals of Rif and Morocoo campagin).

Morocoo's peace medal, stablished in 1927 for conmemorate the end of Morocoo Wars (1909-1927).

Another medal was stablished in 1915 and abolished in 1916 with the new medal of Morocoo campaign, the medal is the same but the inscription "Marruecos" is changed as "Africa"m I haven't a photo in my archive, when I'll have one I will edit this topic.

Medal of Africa, stablished in 1912, for services that can't be awarded with the Rif campaign medal.

Possible clasp:

CASABLANCA

LARACHE

LARACHE-ALCAZAR

CEUTA

TETUAN

FERNANDO POO

A sample of this medal with three action clasp:

Morocoo campaign medal for soldiers/NCO's with Melilla clasp

Morocoo campaign medal, stablished in 1916, two categories: soldiers and NCO's in bronze/officers in silver

Possible action clasp:

MELILLA

TETUAN

LARACHE

More! More!

I love this subject!

Jeje this one for you Chris

Rif campaign medal for soldiers, with three action clasp

Hi!

These are the medals of Spanish Morocoo Wars

First: Medal of Rif campaign, two categorie: soldiers and NCO's in bronze/officers in silver, stablished in 1910 by King Alfonso XIII.

Possible action clasp:

SIDI HAMET EL HACH-GURUGU

QUEBDANA

TAXDIRT-HIDUM-ZOCO EL HAD

NADOR-ZELUAN-ZOCO EL JEMIS

ATLATEN

PEÑON DE ALHUCEMAS

KERT

GARET DE BENI BU YAHI

BENI BU GAFAR

BENI SIDEL

Medal for officers with two action clasp, Medina's maker mark, mobile crown.