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Hello to every fellow member,

I would like to make this thread here as well to post one of my new EK on a medal bar i just got a few days ago. I noticed a maker mark on it, but its either crocked or just all good but to me its not very clear.

I made some very good pics of it, and i posted it up on my website, here are some links.

The maker mark ;

http://wehrmacht43.gportal.hu/picview.php?prt=450382&gid=2698121&index=7

Overall medal bar and cross ;

http://wehrmacht43.gportal.hu/gindex.php?pg=20815647&gid=2698121

Please let me know what you think, i have posted it also on G.C.A but no luck yet..

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards, Les

Hello PinPon,

I think this is a maker #4 Steinhauer & Luck, also what you can find pretty common is that the small loop at the top is soldered only at the front, and then just bent back...

I would like to see what others think but im pretty sure about my thought on it.

regards, Les

Reply to the start of the thread is one word ; GOLDFINGER .... :D

Any ideas guys ?..would appreaciate any thought on it

Cheers, Les

Hello everyone on the forum,

I would like to post one of my parade mounted EK2`s, on which Im not quite sure on the maker, and i would appreciate your thoughts concerning the name of the maker.

I think that its either a 23 or 24, but i am not sure, maybe im totally wrong. The link below takes you to the photos that are on my website ;

http://wehrmacht43.g...647&gid=2690984

Many thanks in advance for your time.

regards, Les

Les - what Gordon and you have stated are the same. For the interest of clarity - unlike German awards which were made from several sources - the orders and decorations of the Hungarian People's Republic were made by the one source of the State Mint. They held all the dies and used them accordingly. It is certainly plausable that the State Mint made these post 1990, but there is no certain way to tell as the dies and the materials are readily available to them during this entire time. If there were post (and there certainly may have been) 1990 strikes of these Hero awards they have controlled production to still make these awards quite rare and hard to come by. The prototype especially - as there have only been a handful - I know of only three that have appeared on the market and only when the Hungarian economy was heading into heavy unemployment and high inflation - hence individuals who had these in their collections were in need of funds. Interestingly enough the image of the second one that came up for auction (for the prototype) at Bedo - also has the reversed ribbon - so perhaps these were "rejects"?? that were later sold to the public. Oh what I would have given to be at the "liquidation sale" at the State Mint that day...

sorry mate i must have missed Gordon`s post earlier... :beer:

cimbineus,

Unless the material used to may the awards changed or the dies/tools become cracked there was no way to tell pre-May 1945 awards from post May 1945 awards.

Regards,

Gordon

i dont quite agree, its the same with the knights cross, you can easily tell postwar and pre-45 Knights crosses from their die flaws. The same is true to the EK`s, even in the period they had die flaws, which later become even worse, which is quite obvious why., like on the S&L post 45 KC-`s, plus as mentioned the Rudolf Souval company made awards, well on the EK1, its also easy to tell which is post and pre 45, the hardware is not the same.

regards, Les

Very nice stuff Peter, I like the way you did the photography and some very rare items there

regards, Les